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Attention All CC Authorized Users!

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Attention All CC Authorized Users!

If you are an Authorized User (AU) on a CC, listen up, take note, and act.
 
Starting in September, the new FICO scoring model will NOT count your AU TLs when calculating your FICO score.
http://www.fairisaac.com/NR/exeres/FAC104CE-DF7F-4610-8A36-85F39C4ED9AB,frameless.htm
 
In plain language, your credit score will drop. Maybe just a few points. Maybe a whole lot if all you have are AU TLs.
 
Husbands and wives, partners, parents and children, and others are legitimate AUs. There are all sorts of folks who have AU CCs. FICO's own data says 30% of consumers have AU accounts. That means tens of millions of people.
 
If you have an AU account, have the primary card holder contact the CCC and ask that the AU be made a joint account holder. If they want to close the account, and reopen a new joint account, tell them no. Be polite but firm in explaining you've been happy with their service, the CC has served you well, that the AU has demonstrated responsibility with the CC, and that you simply want them added as a joint card holder so their credit is not adversely harmed because of unscrupulous criminals running "Credit Rental Agencies".
 
They will need the AU's SSN, DOB, and perhaps a few other bits of info. They will also likely pull the AU's CRs. Unless your scores are completely trashed, there's a reasonably good chance they will convert the account. Yes, it's an inquiry on your CRs, but those don't hurt very much. Losing a good CC TL, or several, hurts much worse.
 
If they flat out refuse, again, do NOT let them close the account and open a new one. You might have to play hardball with them, but do it with a smile and polite firmness. Don't get nasty. Don't scream and yell. Send an Email using their secure online website, visit the bank and talk with a manager, call back and try again, ask to speak with a supervisor. Be persistent.
 
If they stick to their guns, and you have a balance on the CC that you can afford to PIF, pay it down to between 1 and 9 percent util--if it's not already there. If not, pay it down as much as you can. If you have available credit on another CC, do a BT. You want to make them know you are serious. Either they work with you, or you will take your CC business elsewhere.
 
Once the updated balances report to the CRAs, apply for a joint CC with another CCC offering good terms. You want to replace the soon to be lost AU TL with a CC TL that will report to the CRAs and will count in your FICO score. It will be new, and that hurts a little, but give it a little time and your score will bounce up.
 
That CCC that wouldn't work with you, retire the CC to your sock drawer. Perhaps if they see a couple months of little to no activity, they will get the hint and come around with an offer to convert the account to a joint account.
 
It's mid June. There is time. But don't wait until August 31. Get on the stick, today. Now.
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MidnightVoice
Super Contributor

Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!

The process is ongoing for this family.  First form will be mailed today, others following during the next few weeks.
 
Added advantage - if I get hit by a bus, the CCs are still alive and valid
The slide from grace is really more like gliding
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
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Anonymous
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Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!

bump
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fused
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Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!



MidnightVoice wrote:
The process is ongoing for this family.  First form will be mailed today, others following during the next few weeks.
 
Added advantage - if I get hit by a bus, the CCs are still alive and valid


Same here Midnight.  I hope Noah's post gets some folks moving. 
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dallas01
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Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!

Isn't just eq changing over in September and then TU and Ex following at a later date?
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fused
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!



dallas01 wrote:
Isn't just eq changing over in September and then TU and Ex following at a later date?


Some folks here think EQ will be the first but it hasn't been confirmed.
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MidnightVoice
Super Contributor

Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!



dallas01 wrote:
Isn't just eq changing over in September and then TU and Ex following at a later date?


No one seems to know which is changing when.  EQ is the board consensus for this fall, the others for 2008.
 
But I am getting it all done as soon as possible, as it cannot hurt before the change and will help after the change.  And it is very cheap and easy to do, and im my family situation actually makes more sense than AUs.
 
And I am leaving my daughter as an AU on the "emergencies only" card.  Smiley Happy
The slide from grace is really more like gliding
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
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Anonymous
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Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!



MidnightVoice wrote:
 
And I am leaving my daughter as an AU on the "emergencies only" card.  Smiley Happy


Is that the Centurion or your copy of Ted Underhill's AMEX? Smiley Very Happy
 
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MidnightVoice
Super Contributor

Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!

It is my special, unique, "Father of a daughter Peace of Mind" card.
 
Worth its weight in gold.   Smiley Very Happy
The slide from grace is really more like gliding
And I've found the trick is not to stop the sliding
But to find a graceful way of staying slid
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Anonymous
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Re: Attention All CC Authorized Users!

It'll be EQ.  I would bet the ranch on it.
 
EQ is now in the CA business anyway.  I posted previously how if you're credit improves (and you're in an improved position to pay) EQ will sell these lists to CAs.  That's why as your credit improves you start getting a lot of Zombie debts.
 
Plus, the lower your overall score, the more profit CC, mortgage lenders, etc. can charge you (because you have a lower score, they have to charge you a higher rate).  But, a CRA can't be blatant about it or the Government might step in.  So this AU crap gives them a great opportunity.
 
From a mathamatical perspective, being an AU should increase you credit score (maybe not AS MUCH as being the owner of the CC).  If you have the resources to become an AU on a $15,000 cc (whether family or buying it through a sleazy company) you're probably a better statistical bet to pay a debt then someone with same pre-AU score.
 
That's what irritates me about the CRA's:  the junk math.  EVERY event / variable they have EVER introduced works to LOWER your score.  Back in the day, for example, they didn't include student loans and medical collections in your score.  Now, an overdue book from the library (that goes to collections) lowers your score.  LOWER LOWER LOWER.  
 
EQ is the worst as far as verifying and correcting.  You think they do it just to be mean?  They just hate people for no reason?  No.  The lower your score, the more business (indirectly, sure) they get. 
 
Okay, done ranting. 
 
 
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