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    <title>topic Re: Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA in Student Loans</title>
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    <description>&lt;p&gt;Heres what Ive found:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan1: Sally Mae&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened 10/2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed - DOESNT SAY&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: 11/2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan2: Sally Mae&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened 11/2003&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed 9/2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: &amp;quot;N/A&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;THEN&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan1: National Student Loan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened: &amp;quot;N/A&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed - Doesnt say&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: 2/2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan2: National Student Loan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened:  &amp;quot;N/A&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed: Doesnt say&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: 2/2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Both these entries show as turned over to collections&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So at some point National Student Loan turned both loans over to Account Control Technology, or sold it. IDK. Both NSL lines are listed as &amp;quot;open&amp;quot; on the trade line but they are both also listed on my EQ report under Closed Accounts. So which is it? lol&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had asked for a statement from ACS and the guy did a &amp;quot;Print Screen&amp;quot; on his computer showing both loans and sent it to me. Real classy lol.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All it showed was my previous balance and my new balance pretty much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anywho...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So my question still remains...can I dispute the date of first delinquency with National Student Loans and claim it was the first day I missed a payment with Sally Mae, or did the clock start over when they acquired the debt and started reporting?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could I, for isntance, DV National Student Loan and see if they ingore? Is that my only option at this point? They are not a collection agency so paying them to delete is not an option(I dont mean pay off the debt, I know that it is already &amp;quot;paid&amp;quot;. I mean straight up pay them to erase it, I would think a collection agency MIGHT be willing to, but not a student loan co. lol)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, on my report it still shows that the National Student Loan lines are &amp;quot;open&amp;quot;. Either ACT bought the debt from NSL, and NSL forgot to or did not update my credit report. OR National Student Loan hired ACT as a third-party CA.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am currently in the process of a consolidation through Direct Loans.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Im just wondering what the best course of action would be. Looking back, I should have rehabbed first but really I dont have a year to wait. They had already sent a letter stating garnishment would commence 3/25/2011. I had to request a hearing with them to buy time while I consolditated. It was my only option. They were going to take $300/mo out of my paycheck and once it starts it is very difficult to stop, even once the loan is paid through consolidation I have heard of people still getting garnished. Granted, it goes towards the loan but sheesh. $300/mo? It like $9400!.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So what should I do?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Will National Student Loan be on my CR until 2/2013? Or can I DV them and make them update it to the original Date of First Delinquency with Sally Mae of 11/2004?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for reading whoever stuck through this without falling asleep lol. Im a newbie to all this, Im no dummy but all the different info out there sure muddys the water ya know?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:33:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>stone4779</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-04-04T23:33:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA</title>
      <link>http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Student-Loans/Student-Loan-Defaulted-then-Paid-by-INS-then-went-to-CA/m-p/880460#M6195</link>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;OK so I had TWO student loans originally:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Sally Mae-----$4000&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Current Status: &amp;quot;Pays As Agreed&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan opened 11/2003&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reported: 9/2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First Delinquency:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed: 9/2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Comments: &amp;quot;Balance paid or being paid by insurance company&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Description: Transfer/Sold/Paid&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Sally Mae-----$2561&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;ACCT Status: Pays As Agreed&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan opened 10/2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Reported: 11/2010&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Last Payment: 11/2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First Delinquency: 11/2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Comments: &amp;quot;Charged off account. Variable Adjustable Rate&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Im guessing they sold the debt to these guys because now I have this:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-National Student Loan---$5115&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date Opened: N/A&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date Reported: 11/2008&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date Major First Delinquency: 11/2008&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date First Delinquency: 02/2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Comments: &amp;quot;Collection Account&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-National Student Loan---$3283&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date Opened: N/A&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date Reported: 11/2008&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date Major First Delinquency: 12/2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date First Delinquency: 02/2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Comments: &amp;quot;Collection Account&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had my loan reconsolidated and they check has been mailed, but I have also had these people from &amp;quot;Account Control Technologies&amp;quot; calling me and hounding me, although I dont see them anywhere on any of my credit reports.. Weird.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since it says &amp;quot;Collection Account&amp;quot; under the National Student Loan entries..doesnt that mean they went into collections as well?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So now I am getting a Direct Loan through the William D. Ford Program. (2.47%..not bad :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So I now have only one shiny new student loan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Ummm so hows it work...? Sally Mae sold it to National Student Loan, they turned it over to a collection agency, and whoever has my loan now is going to pay off Account Control Technologies?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When does this stuff go off my credit? Dont the Sally Mae ones go off 7 years from the date of first delinquency?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But what about the National Student Loan ones? Dont they go off at the same time as well? Since they are actually the same debt? I didnt sign anything with them they just sold the debt to NSS right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Basically, when does this bad stuff go away? I really would like to clear up my credit. Any help would be GREATLY apreciated!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hpe the clock didnt start ticking again on any of this :( PLEASE tell me all this stuff goes away after 7 years from 11/2004 and these crooks didnt restart the clock by selling the debt or tranferring it or sending it to a CA :(&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;THANKS!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:30:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stone4779</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-30T08:30:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>BRe: Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;OH and BTW, these are Federally guaranteed loans :(&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:34:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stone4779</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-03-30T08:34:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BRe: Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA</title>
      <link>http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Student-Loans/Student-Loan-Defaulted-then-Paid-by-INS-then-went-to-CA/m-p/883480#M6225</link>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;If they're federal loans, then you can go to the National Student Loan Database and find out who's got what and how much they say you owe:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nslds.ed.gov/nslds_SA/"&gt;http://www.nslds.ed.gov/nslds_SA/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Otherwise, I don't really have any answers for you -- but good luck!! (I hope they do drop off!!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 06:11:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hapagrrl</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-04-02T06:11:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;I would not just rely on them not being on your credit report if they are calling you find out why. I will first start by locating all my outstanding loans and who has them. I have seen many times where people think they have consolidated all there loans to find out later they did not.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:15:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>shazer7</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-04-04T19:15:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA</title>
      <link>http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Student-Loans/Student-Loan-Defaulted-then-Paid-by-INS-then-went-to-CA/m-p/885360#M6235</link>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Heres what Ive found:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan1: Sally Mae&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened 10/2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed - DOESNT SAY&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: 11/2004&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan2: Sally Mae&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened 11/2003&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed 9/2007&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: &amp;quot;N/A&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;THEN&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan1: National Student Loan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened: &amp;quot;N/A&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed - Doesnt say&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: 2/2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Loan2: National Student Loan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Opened:  &amp;quot;N/A&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Closed: Doesnt say&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Date of First Delinquency: 2/2006&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Both these entries show as turned over to collections&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So at some point National Student Loan turned both loans over to Account Control Technology, or sold it. IDK. Both NSL lines are listed as &amp;quot;open&amp;quot; on the trade line but they are both also listed on my EQ report under Closed Accounts. So which is it? lol&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had asked for a statement from ACS and the guy did a &amp;quot;Print Screen&amp;quot; on his computer showing both loans and sent it to me. Real classy lol.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;All it showed was my previous balance and my new balance pretty much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anywho...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So my question still remains...can I dispute the date of first delinquency with National Student Loans and claim it was the first day I missed a payment with Sally Mae, or did the clock start over when they acquired the debt and started reporting?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could I, for isntance, DV National Student Loan and see if they ingore? Is that my only option at this point? They are not a collection agency so paying them to delete is not an option(I dont mean pay off the debt, I know that it is already &amp;quot;paid&amp;quot;. I mean straight up pay them to erase it, I would think a collection agency MIGHT be willing to, but not a student loan co. lol)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, on my report it still shows that the National Student Loan lines are &amp;quot;open&amp;quot;. Either ACT bought the debt from NSL, and NSL forgot to or did not update my credit report. OR National Student Loan hired ACT as a third-party CA.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am currently in the process of a consolidation through Direct Loans.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Im just wondering what the best course of action would be. Looking back, I should have rehabbed first but really I dont have a year to wait. They had already sent a letter stating garnishment would commence 3/25/2011. I had to request a hearing with them to buy time while I consolditated. It was my only option. They were going to take $300/mo out of my paycheck and once it starts it is very difficult to stop, even once the loan is paid through consolidation I have heard of people still getting garnished. Granted, it goes towards the loan but sheesh. $300/mo? It like $9400!.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So what should I do?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Will National Student Loan be on my CR until 2/2013? Or can I DV them and make them update it to the original Date of First Delinquency with Sally Mae of 11/2004?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for reading whoever stuck through this without falling asleep lol. Im a newbie to all this, Im no dummy but all the different info out there sure muddys the water ya know?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:33:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stone4779</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-04-04T23:33:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;Well, after determined effort I have gotten the National Student Loan tradelines completely removed from all three credit reports. :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have 3 negative tradelines with Sallie Mae to deal with, well really two because at least one will fall off at the end of the year...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just got to keep trying on the other two Sallie Maes I guess..maybe they will get tired of responding my disputes :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have two that supposedly became delinquent in March 2006, which is bull because I opened them in 2003 and never paid anything on them. I graduated in 9/16/2004 and if I am not mistaken they were deferred for 6 months after graduation. So I would have had to start payment March 2005. Seems they are off by a year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I will continue to dispute these TLs until the day the naturally expire or are remove :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:49:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stone4779</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-04-12T19:49:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Student Loan - Defaulted then Paid by INS then went to CA</title>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;I am pretty much in the same boat you were in and I would like to know how things worked out for you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1.) After consolidating your loans, what did you have to do to make the CA remove negative items from your credit report?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2.) Did the negative information from Sallie Mae fall off of your report yet?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for any updates and information you can provide me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:03:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>onslaught</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-01-08T00:03:21Z</dc:date>
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