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Mandiren23
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Pay off loan prior to taking out a new loan?

I am at the end of a loan on a Nissan with about $4000 left on it (last payment will be in Oct) and I am looking to purchase a used car in May/June to replace another vehicle (not the Nissan).  My credit is not great, but improving and fico hovering in the mid 550's. Is it best to pay off this loan now and then apply for a new loan on a used car in a few months, or do I keep this loan as a source of good payment history and standing?

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Remember0
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Re: Pay off loan prior to taking out a new loan?

How's your prior auto history and installment history?

 

In general, if you don't pay it off and try to finance a second one without a co-signer with a sub-650 score, the existance of two loans becomes a sticking point. They want to know why haha. You can solve it pretty easily by either getting a co-signer, having a good story as to why you need two cars, or paying off the second loan and waiting for the payoff to report to your credit report.

 

One caution: If you payoff using what would be your down payment, the new car might be harder to finance/you may get a higher APR. Is this the plan ro do you have enough to still have a dp on the new car?

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Revelate
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Re: Pay off loan prior to taking out a new loan?


@Remember0 wrote:

How's your prior auto history and installment history?

 

In general, if you don't pay it off and try to finance a second one without a co-signer with a sub-650 score, the existance of two loans becomes a sticking point. They want to know why haha. You can solve it pretty easily by either getting a co-signer, having a good story as to why you need two cars, or paying off the second loan and waiting for the payoff to report to your credit report.

 

One caution: If you payoff using what would be your down payment, the new car might be harder to finance/you may get a higher APR. Is this the plan ro do you have enough to still have a dp on the new car?


Out of curiosity what's your source for this?

 

An installment loan of any sort counts against your DTI: if you have the income to support both loans, and have the downpayment it typically requires to get an auto loan with a sub-optimal credit score (as you correctly mention), it should be feasible to do so?




        
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Remember0
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Re: Pay off loan prior to taking out a new loan?

So I unfortunately can't link you to a particular document that says two loans are hard for subprime. I'm sure if you made friends with someone in the finance department of a dealership they could show you some approval guidelines though...I know through third-hand experience + asking/making friends with people in the finance department of auto dealers.

 

I will also say that it's not impossible for subprimes to have more than one open auto note. With a good story, and if everything else falls into place as you mentioned (DTI, dp, LTV), it can happen. But I'm willing to bet that if the OP went out and tried right now without trading in his current note and with no co-signer, he'd encounter pushback/difficulty. In fact there's countless stories/threads of that exact situation on our forum and others.

 

 

Why you ask when everything else would seem like the loan should be approved? I can tell you the rational reasons why lenders hesitate. And by the way, a prime customer will run into the same thing if they try to get 3+ (or 4+ depending onlender) open auto loans even if everything else is fine.

 

Situation 1: Subprime customer with one open loan buys another auto. Well backstory (that he doesn't tell the finance company): his old car was failing and it has so much negative equity, there's no way to trade it in. Soon after new car's loan closes, customer defaults on old loan. Lowers the fico of customer + this means that customer now has people chasing him for the deficiency. This is especially terrible for the finance company if your old loan is also with them. For this reason, the same company will almost NEVER write two simultaneous loans for a subprime customer.

 

Situation 2: Subprime customer buys the other auto for someone in his family. That's nice and all, but let's say this other person doesn't co-sign. If the driver stops giving our borrower the monthly payment or our borrower hits financial trouble, he will stop paying the second car. Because he doesn't need it everyday, the consequences of a repo serve as less of a deterrent to not paying.

 

Situation 3: Subprime customer buys 2 autos for himself. If he gets into any financial trouble, the second car loan payment is the first that's going to go unpaid...like scenario 2, he doesn't need 2 cars and a repo won't effect him quite as much as if he only had one primary car to do everything.

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