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14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?

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Fico2Go
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?


@Bman70 wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@Bman70 wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@LearningMoreAboutCredit wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

I have a 710 FICO now.  My goal is 800 by end of this year.  I'm looking for the fastest way to 800 scores.  


So, the question is...is an 800 score for pride? Anything over 750 gets you the same rates as an 800+ score would.

 

Not saying that you shouldn't shoot for 800 but is overrated IMO.  Besides, a ding from 800+ has a greater impact (fall in score).

 

Some examples are here: http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?filter=labels%2Clocation&location=foru...


It's not for pride but so that I can take a ding or two without dropping down sub 700.  When I was at 750 a ding or two took me down to 680. 

 

 


What two dings took 70 points off your score? Seems like a lot


 

One new inquiry.  one new account opened.  AAoA dropped from 3.9 to 3.7 years.  Total Util ratio increased to 23%. 

 

 

 

 


S-word! One new inquiry? ffs, I've been dinged twice with unauthorized hard pulls in the last two months - one from a car dealer and one from Comcast.. and my score has climbed steadily anyway! And that's not a big change in AAoA either. It must have been moving out of some low-util bucket into an over-20% bucket. Just guessing


Yes of course you are correct.  My point is this.. at peak my scores can top at 750.  I can pinpoint the exact reasons why the scores dropped.  I am looking for direction on how to get to 800.   

 

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Message 21 of 51
Bman70
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?


@Fico2Go wrote:

@Bman70 wrote:

 Highest individual utilization? 


 

This could well be my biggest ding.  On one of my card I intentionally let it report a high balance of 1750 of a 2000 CLI.

 


The plot thickens. Smiley Happy Out of 8 cards, I'd shoot for 2 or 3 reporting some kind of balance. Most people say just 1, but I've come close to 800 with all 3 of my cards reporting balances - some near 30%. So if you can balance transfer, without destroying any single card's util, that might be one way to lower the number of cards reporting. (That's what I'm doing soon - 3 cards reporting to just 1 via balance transfer.) You will see a nice bump, I'm sure, if you get that 1750 down to 200. 


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Message 22 of 51
Fico2Go
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?


@LearningMoreAboutCredit wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@Bman70 wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@LearningMoreAboutCredit wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

I have a 710 FICO now.  My goal is 800 by end of this year.  I'm looking for the fastest way to 800 scores.  


So, the question is...is an 800 score for pride? Anything over 750 gets you the same rates as an 800+ score would.

 

Not saying that you shouldn't shoot for 800 but is overrated IMO.  Besides, a ding from 800+ has a greater impact (fall in score).

 

Some examples are here: http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?filter=labels%2Clocation&location=foru...


It's not for pride but so that I can take a ding or two without dropping down sub 700.  When I was at 750 a ding or two took me down to 680. 

 

 


What two dings took 70 points off your score? Seems like a lot


 

One new inquiry.  one new account opened.  AAoA dropped from 3.9 to 3.7 years.  Total Util ratio increased to 23%. 

 

 

 

 


 Once you reach AAoA of 5 years, you'll get rebucketed and scores will improve even more.  


Letting it age it might be best.  Would getting added as an AU be helpful at this point? 

Discover IT $19,000 == 12/2013
AMEX 12/2013 ---BCP $12,000 === BC $23,000 ----- 04/2014
CHASE SLATE $5,700 === 12/2013
BoA 123 $6000 === 12/2013
Barclay Rewards $1500 == 12/2013
Message 23 of 51
fot1
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?

Anything negative on the reports?

Too many to list..
Message 24 of 51
Fico2Go
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?


@Bman70 wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@Bman70 wrote:

 Highest individual utilization? 


 

This could well be my biggest ding.  On one of my card I intentionally let it report a high balance of 1750 of a 2000 CLI.

 


The plot thickens. Smiley Happy Out of 8 cards, I'd shoot for 2 or 3 reporting some kind of balance. Most people say just 1, but I've come close to 800 with all 3 of my cards reporting balances - some near 30%. So if you can balance transfer, without destroying any single card's util, that might be one way to lower the number of cards reporting. (That's what I'm doing soon - 3 cards reporting to just 1 via balance transfer.) You will see a nice bump, I'm sure, if you get that 1750 down to 200. 


 

Great point!  Smiley Happy

 

Please clarify.  Are you saying that having 2-3 reporting balances can net higher FICO than 1? 

 

Discover IT $19,000 == 12/2013
AMEX 12/2013 ---BCP $12,000 === BC $23,000 ----- 04/2014
CHASE SLATE $5,700 === 12/2013
BoA 123 $6000 === 12/2013
Barclay Rewards $1500 == 12/2013
Message 25 of 51
LearningMoreAboutCredit
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?


@Fico2Go wrote:

@LearningMoreAboutCredit wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@Bman70 wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@LearningMoreAboutCredit wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

I have a 710 FICO now.  My goal is 800 by end of this year.  I'm looking for the fastest way to 800 scores.  


So, the question is...is an 800 score for pride? Anything over 750 gets you the same rates as an 800+ score would.

 

Not saying that you shouldn't shoot for 800 but is overrated IMO.  Besides, a ding from 800+ has a greater impact (fall in score).

 

Some examples are here: http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?filter=labels%2Clocation&location=foru...


It's not for pride but so that I can take a ding or two without dropping down sub 700.  When I was at 750 a ding or two took me down to 680. 

 

 


What two dings took 70 points off your score? Seems like a lot


 

One new inquiry.  one new account opened.  AAoA dropped from 3.9 to 3.7 years.  Total Util ratio increased to 23%. 

 

 

 

 


 Once you reach AAoA of 5 years, you'll get rebucketed and scores will improve even more.  


Letting it age it might be best.  Would getting added as an AU be helpful at this point? 


AU's are beginning to have little effect on scores but YMMV.  Here are some links that address the same question as you.

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/FICO-04-FICO-8-and-AU-Scoring/m-p/2547237...

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/myFICO-s-EX08-score-is-not-including-AU-a...


Any advice given is always YMMV...

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Message 26 of 51
Fico2Go
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?


@fot1 wrote:

Anything negative on the reports?


ZERO negative.

Discover IT $19,000 == 12/2013
AMEX 12/2013 ---BCP $12,000 === BC $23,000 ----- 04/2014
CHASE SLATE $5,700 === 12/2013
BoA 123 $6000 === 12/2013
Barclay Rewards $1500 == 12/2013
Message 27 of 51
Bman70
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?


@Fico2Go wrote:

@Bman70 wrote:

@Fico2Go wrote:

@Bman70 wrote:

 Highest individual utilization? 


 

This could well be my biggest ding.  On one of my card I intentionally let it report a high balance of 1750 of a 2000 CLI.

 


The plot thickens. Smiley Happy Out of 8 cards, I'd shoot for 2 or 3 reporting some kind of balance. Most people say just 1, but I've come close to 800 with all 3 of my cards reporting balances - some near 30%. So if you can balance transfer, without destroying any single card's util, that might be one way to lower the number of cards reporting. (That's what I'm doing soon - 3 cards reporting to just 1 via balance transfer.) You will see a nice bump, I'm sure, if you get that 1750 down to 200. 


 

Great point!  Smiley Happy

 

Please clarify.  Are you saying that having 2-3 reporting balances can net higher FICO than 1? 

 


Definitely not, just saying that in my own experience, having all my cards reporting didn't keep me from reaching 780, with util at 20% total. I'm sure if I had lowered my util I would have seen better


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Message 28 of 51
Fico2Go
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?

Actually perhaps there are some negatives.  My biggest negative is that I opened most of my accounts in the past six months.  I had left the credit card world for a decade and just returned.  Having said that again my point is I'm seeking ways to go from 750 to 800 in the shortest  time frame..given my profile.

 

 

 

Discover IT $19,000 == 12/2013
AMEX 12/2013 ---BCP $12,000 === BC $23,000 ----- 04/2014
CHASE SLATE $5,700 === 12/2013
BoA 123 $6000 === 12/2013
Barclay Rewards $1500 == 12/2013
Message 29 of 51
fot1
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Re: 14 accounts = 8 active credit cards, 1 car loan, 1 student loan, 4 closed accounts. What next?

Looks like you just need to age then..

Too many to list..
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