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AMEX backdating tradeline relationship date

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I was reading through another post about the AMEX Oasis program, and I  discovered that one can call AMEX and have a current card ("member since") dated back to the original AMEX relationship date.  I know that's a confusing sentence.  I applied for and was approved for a ZYNC card a few months ago. When I applied, it didn't occur to me to check anything other than the "new member" box.  I did, however have AMEX products in my past - A gold, platinum and the OLD Optima card; a successful relationship that dates back, according to an old credit report (gotta love librarians, we keep everything!) to 1987.  So I called AMEX to see if the "Member Since" date on my ZYNC card could be dated back to the year of my original AMEX product - 1987. The rep. with whom I spoke said they'd have to do some research on it, and asked for my SSN.  I complied, and they'll let me know something whenever they do.  I never missed a payment or anything like that, I just grew tired of that then exorbitant AF (which back when I had my Platinum card was something like $325/year), and I called up and  cancelled the Platinum card. IIRC, they put two or three supervisors on the phone to try and save the account, and I got rather heated, but polite in my insistence that they jsut cancel the @**#@ card!  It's now probably the stuff of AMEX training tapes.

 

So, we'll see if I get my request granted. I don't really know what benefit it'll do for me in the long haul, but my ZYNC card will suddenly be "a lot older".

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Re: AMEX backdating tradeline relationship date

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I don't see why they wouldn't backdate it. Seems perfectly straightforward to me!

 

What I wouldn't give to suddenly flash on the existence of an old American Express account for me... :smileysad:

 

 

eta: if it's really old, they sometimes need an account number to dig it out of mothballs. If there's any chance that you might have some ancient record of a number --memo line on an old cancelled check, ancient statement, beat-up card used for scraping frost off your windshield, etc. --it might be useful to dig it up.

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The AMEX rep. with whom I spoke asked me for an account number. I gave him the number off of the old Experian report, but he replied that that number was not a valid AMEX acc't number.  Don't know if I have checks back that far...but I might!  Worth a look-see through the attic, etc.  I'll keep folks posted on what happens.

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Re: AMEX backdating tradeline relationship date

Yes, AmEx jumbles the account numbers that appear on credit reports.

 

Happy hunting!

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I did something like that when I got my Starwood card in July of this year.  (EQ 780 FICO, TU 792 FICO, AAoA 5, Length 15 yrs,  2 inq Ex, 4 inq EQ, 0 inq TU, no lates, no derog, no baddies).

 

Cold apped and AmEx considered me new since they didn't have records of me before.

I had a green card from 2002 but AmEx had purged the record (so they said).  But they did tell me that if I could find any proof, they'd gladly backdate it.

So, I looked and my credit report and gave them that account number.    Was told it wasn't a valid number and that I'd have to keep looking.

Then I decided to check a box of old stuff and lo and behold, I found the original green card, albiet cut in half and an old statement.

So I faxed over images of the cut up card and the statement, and by the time I got back to my home to check email, my account had been backdated to 2002 and there was a message that they were sending a replacement card.

 

So it can be done, if you can just dig up any proof.

 

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Current stats (10-19-10) in case anyone cares:

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Re: AMEX backdating tradeline relationship date

Dave,

 

Just keep calling. Below is a link detailing my experience last year. I had two new accounts redated to 1988.

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/writemikep-Amex-re-age/m-p/527839

 

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WOO HOO!  I logged into check my account  a few hours later and it said "Welcome, XXX , Member since 1987"

 

Didn't have to fax anything to them.  They either found my old AMEX accounts by SSN or took my word for it.

Don't know if there's a replacement card on the way or not.

My oldest TL is either 1986 or 1987 so this won't help AAOA much...but it'll at least be accurate.

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It will also avoid the new account ding, as your account is now instantly 23-24 years old.

 

Pretty sweet!

 

I can promise you that a 1986-87 account date would definitely help my AAoA! :smileyvery-happy: congrats

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DaveinSC wrote:

WOO HOO!  I logged into check my account  a few hours later and it said "Welcome, XXX , Member since 1987"

 

Didn't have to fax anything to them.  They either found my old AMEX accounts by SSN or took my word for it.

Don't know if there's a replacement card on the way or not.

My oldest TL is either 1986 or 1987 so this won't help AAOA much...but it'll at least be accurate.


Amex has elephent memory..

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Icewave76 wrote:

 

So it can be done, if you can just dig up any proof.


 

Yes, I reminded DW of her 25-year old Amex card in the drawer for once upon a time stuff and encouraged her to call customer service. The credit reports now list her present card's opened date as such. And being an AU, my card inherits the history. :smileyvery-happy:

 

 

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