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AMEX declined, they did a HP

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AMEX declined, they did a HP

I have PRG and HHilton no AF, app'd for the Everyday a few days ago and was declined for too many new accounts, too many recent INQs etc.

 

Today CreditSesame reported a new HP from AMEX, I thought they only did SP on declines for card members? I did app for the same card on the 1st of Jan. and that decline was a SP. I was trying to get another AMEX this month for backdate purposes.

 

Any way to get this HP removed from my report?

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Anonymous
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP


@Anonymous wrote:

I have PRG and HHilton no AF, app'd for the Everyday a few days ago and was declined for too many new accounts, too many recent INQs etc.

 

Today CreditSesame reported a new HP from AMEX, I thought they only did SP on declines for card members? I did app for the same card on the 1st of Jan. and that decline was a SP. I was trying to get another AMEX this month for backdate purposes.

 

Any way to get this HP removed from my report?


Apply incognito?

 

Unfortunately you don't really have much recourse, AMEX doing an SP for denial while often a formality, is the exception to the rule as you DID apply for new credit.

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takeshi74
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP


@Anonymous wrote:

Today CreditSesame reported a new HP from AMEX, I thought they only did SP on declines for card members?


They tend to.  No guarantee.  HP's can and do happen for existing members with active card accounts.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Any way to get this HP removed from my report?


Nope.  Applying is permissible purpose.

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thelethargicage
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP

Amex SP denial is a myth.


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chalupaman
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP

I did once get a HP denial from Amex for the PRG but that was also the same month that I had gotten in with Amex. Since then, any denials I've gotten they've never done any more HPs on. I'm gonna assume it differs for everyone.

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP

Got a few Denials via SP's..  Always logged onto account..  Maybe it has to do with the SP thinks you will get it, but once they HP you something they don't like?  Dunno

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Anonymous
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP

That sucks 

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TheGardner
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP

My theory:

Amex uses the last account review SP for initial approval.

Computer says "we are good guys, issue this mofo a new card "

HP formality ensues, report has changed and falling out of approval range.

Computer says "J/k guys, don't send that memo, this guy can go pound sand a few more months."

Denial Letter : "you make me treat you this way, I don't want to, it's for your own good"

Sadness follows but as with a lot of abusive relationships we know Amex loves us so we take it and hope not to upset it again..
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Anonymous
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP


@TheGardner wrote:
My theory:

Amex uses the last account review SP for initial approval.

Computer says "we are good guys, issue this mofo a new card "

HP formality ensues, report has changed and falling out of approval range.

Computer says "J/k guys, don't send that memo, this guy can go pound sand a few more months."

Denial Letter : "you make me treat you this way, I don't want to, it's for your own good"

Sadness follows but as with a lot of abusive relationships we know Amex loves us so we take it and hope not to upset it again..

Comical as this is, This appears to be the way the system works.

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Anonymous
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Re: AMEX declined, they did a HP


@Anonymous wrote:

Apply incognito?

 

Unfortunately you don't really have much recourse, AMEX doing an SP for denial while often a formality, is the exception to the rule as you DID apply for new credit.


What does applying incognito do for you?

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