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Advice on second card

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Anonymous
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Re: Advice on second card

Okay, six months it is then lol.
Message 21 of 26
Anonymous
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Re: Advice on second card

Can you typo your birthyear and then fix it on the app if they like what they see? 

Message 22 of 26
Open123
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Re: Advice on second card

Aside from a momentary drop in score, a single HP is meaningless.  

 

I don't view the HP a waste, but rather an indication that at this moment, your credit is insufficient for new unsecured revolving TLs.  In general, after a declination, you should (1) request a free hard copy of your report, and (2) review and address the reasons for the decline.  In general, waiting for 6 months before another app after a declination is both prudent and standard practice.

 

From my experience and reading of others, I suggest the following during the building phase:

 

1. Refrain from app'ing for 6 months.

2. Use your Discover for all of your bills.  Of course, pay your obligations by the due date.

3. In 6 months, if you can, open up 3 TLs - ideally, with an HP in each CRA.

4. This is important.  Each TL ideally should be a "Prime" Lender (Chase, BofA, Amex, Citi, US Bank, Cap One, Wells, etc...) and NO ANNUAL FEE.

5. If possible, reach 5 no annual fee TLs asap each with a different lender.

 

Many will disagree and find my recommendation too ambitious, but it will yield better results.  If I were building/rebuilding today, it is exactly what I would do.

 

Several years ago, based on Fico's algorithms (assuming they haven't drastically changed), I informally calculated the score's ascent comparing a few TLs vs. a larger amount.  All things equal, a greater number of initial TLs (5, beyond that you're hitting diminishing returns) leads ultimately to a higher score and thicker file in less time.  Not sure if we can find it, but, if memory serves, Revelate had a post illustrating this very dynamic.

 

In the end, far and away the most important is to use your cards and meet your obligations. 

 

Good luck!

 

*Edited*  PS - By the way, if you can be added as an AU on a 20 or 30 year TL with perfect payment history (like your Parents or family friend), in 6 months, you'll probably be auto approved for 2 or 3 accounts immediately with the above mentioned lenders.

Message 23 of 26
Anonymous
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Re: Advice on second card

Thanks for the advice!
Message 24 of 26
Anonymous
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Re: Advice on second card

Yes Open!

 

for Christmas, I am literally asking my Mother to be added as an AU. I don't want a card, I don't want access, I just want AU status on a 30+ yr old CC account. 

 

With the genius idea of getting a positive trade line so early in life, in 10yrs, before you're even 30! You'll be fighting high tier lenders off with a stick due to your history.

Message 25 of 26
Anonymous
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Re: Advice on second card

So, my TU fico from Discover was 664

Message 26 of 26
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