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Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card

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bribro
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Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card

I plan on applying for an AmEx BCE around October of this year, 6 months after the last HPs hit my CR. One thing I just realized is that by October I will have surely maxed out the $15k credit line on my Freedom card since it has a 0% APR. Will having this maxed out card pretty much eliminate my chances of getting approved for a BCE? I can just pay it off but was planning to roll that $15k into some short-term investments since I'm not paying interest anyway. Thoughts?

TU FICO: 800 (2/1/14) | CK Score: 802 (2/1/14) | CS Score: 805 (2/1/14)

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thrasher865
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card

Why do you need the AMEX?  You will probably have to choose.  Do you want to earn a couple dollars on that Freedom money, or do you want the Amex?  I would just hold off on it until your promo period ends on the Freedom and then app once you pay off the Freedom.

 

 


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FrugalRican
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card

Why are you waiting 6 months? The INQs will still show and be a part of your score.

I'm sure the 15K would look a lot scarier to them than the inquiries.

 

It's about 20% overall on your revolvers, but still 100% on one line.

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bribro
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card


@thrasher865 wrote:

Why do you need the AMEX?  You will probably have to choose.  Do you want to earn a couple dollars on that Freedom money, or do you want the Amex?  I would just hold off on it until your promo period ends on the Freedom and then app once you pay off the Freedom.

 

 


I don't need it, but I'd like to start a relationship with AmEx for backdating purposes (I regret not having done it years ago). I definitely want to do it sometime this year. The 2% and 3% bonus categories are nice too.

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bribro
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card


@FrugalRican wrote:

Why are you waiting 6 months? The INQs will still show and be a part of your score.

I'm sure the 15K would look a lot scarier to them than the inquiries.

 

It's about 20% overall on your revolvers, but still 100% on one line.


I hear after 6 months HPs start to "hurt" less, and then drop off entirely after 12 months. Is the first part not true?

TU FICO: 800 (2/1/14) | CK Score: 802 (2/1/14) | CS Score: 805 (2/1/14)

J.P. Morgan Palladium ($250k) | AmEx Platinum (NPSL) | AmEx SPG Personal/Business ($50k/$50k) | Citi Executive AAdvantage WEMC ($50k) | Citi Dividend WEMC ($50k) | Chase Sapphire Preferred VS ($50k) | Chase Ink Bold WEMC ($50k Flex) | Chase Ink Plus WEMC ($25k) | Chase Freedom VS ($25k) | Chase Freedom WMC ($25k) | Chase MileagePlus Explorer ($25k) | Chase Southwest RR Plus Business/Personal ($15k/$15k) | Barclays US Airways ($25k) | Barclays Hawaiian Airlines ($25k) | BofA Alaska Airlines ($10k) | Lexus Financial Services ($30k) | Mercedes-Benz Financial Services ($50k)
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ILBrian
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card

How many HPS do you have now? maybe you should apply now before it maxes?

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bribro
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card


@ILBrian wrote:

How many HPS do you have now? maybe you should apply now before it maxes?



3 HPs. I'm thinking about doing that now. Has AmEx offered better than $100 for a $1k spend before?

TU FICO: 800 (2/1/14) | CK Score: 802 (2/1/14) | CS Score: 805 (2/1/14)

J.P. Morgan Palladium ($250k) | AmEx Platinum (NPSL) | AmEx SPG Personal/Business ($50k/$50k) | Citi Executive AAdvantage WEMC ($50k) | Citi Dividend WEMC ($50k) | Chase Sapphire Preferred VS ($50k) | Chase Ink Bold WEMC ($50k Flex) | Chase Ink Plus WEMC ($25k) | Chase Freedom VS ($25k) | Chase Freedom WMC ($25k) | Chase MileagePlus Explorer ($25k) | Chase Southwest RR Plus Business/Personal ($15k/$15k) | Barclays US Airways ($25k) | Barclays Hawaiian Airlines ($25k) | BofA Alaska Airlines ($10k) | Lexus Financial Services ($30k) | Mercedes-Benz Financial Services ($50k)
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Crashem
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card

Most likely pull experian for you. You have 3 hp on experian? Also for the bce, which is no af, 100 bucks is about it that I have seen recently. More has been available on bcp with its 75 af. I would definitely app now vs a high util freedom. Yes hps hurt less after 6 months and not at all after a year. But I think inquiriy is overrated unless you have a ton. If you want to be safe, go for zync with it's low af or any other charge card to start your backdating. Btw, I find an Amex charge card very useful for managing utilization.
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RyVision
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card

If your reports are clean (as in spotless), your scores good and have a few decent TLs with those higher CLs and a few years AAoA, as well as income to support it all,  you might get it now.  You would most probably get Zync no problem if you want in for back dating and to start a relationship with AMEX. I agree with others that the UTIL will probably hurt more than INQ's when going for a revolver with AMEX. You could possibly apply for both on the same day and only take one HP for the 2 apps though.

 

I recently got AMEX Blue after having Zync around 8 months, with a few cards with high UTIL (similar situation), 2 INQ's previous 6 months with a 3rd nearing the 12 months mark (AMEX only pulled EX).

 

One thing about it though, if AMEX "knows" you for nearly 6 months before the Chase nears it's max, they'll pay less attention to it.

 

Hope that helps a bit.


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credithappy
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Re: Applying for AmEx BCE w/Maxed Out Freedom Card


@bribro wrote:

@FrugalRican wrote:

Why are you waiting 6 months? The INQs will still show and be a part of your score.

I'm sure the 15K would look a lot scarier to them than the inquiries.

 

It's about 20% overall on your revolvers, but still 100% on one line.


I hear after 6 months HPs start to "hurt" less, and then drop off entirely after 12 months. Is the first part not true?


That is not true.  The 12 months may hurt less and it is 24 months for your HP to drop off from your CR.  

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