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bk510
Valued Contributor

Re: Barclay CLD/AA


@jeffm4688 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Do you think these CLD and account closings happen mostly on Barclays own cards, or do they also happen on co-branded cards like the jetBlue? I hope not, but I'll just have to see what happens, I guess.


They happen on jetblue, just got my letter today. They closed $9K line strictly due to INQ's and new Acct's. I added 8 accounts in the 8 months since getting the jetblue (vs the 12 new I had in the 6 months prior to approval).


When I opened my BRM back in 6/13, for the following next 2 yrs, I was getting auto CLI like a clockwork(every 6 months). Then I started to expand my porfolio and I havent seen a dime from them. I should thank my lucky star for not gettin' AA, but at this point I'd be cool with or without it.

Just called the other day about APR reduction and possible SP CLI....Lady tells me yes you qualify for 1% reduction to 24.24%, lol. and no SP CLI.

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bk510
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA


@CreditMagic7 wrote:

That's the thing about Barclays.

 

They have a special pool of cardholders they keep close and see to their satisfaction, and then there's everybody else Smiley Very Happy


yep,

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sillykitty1
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA


@CreditMagic7 wrote:

That's the thing about Barclays.

 

They have a special pool of cardholders they keep close and see to their satisfaction, and then there's everybody else Smiley Very Happy


This makes it sound like there is some secret criteria, or Barclay's just chooses some card holders at random.  It is pretty clear from all of the AA stories that Barclays is risk adverse.  They are particularly sensitive to aggressive credit seeking.  So if you have a Barclay's card, and want to keep it, either moderate your credit seeking, or have a otherwise very strong profile to offset the risk factor.

 

Barclay's wouldn't be in business if they were alienate the majority of their cardholders and only satisfying a "special pool of cardholders"  

 

Threads like these make Barclay's seem like the boogeyman, like there is no rhyme or reason for their actions.  It encourages people to irrational things like proactively close thier Barclay's account in fear of an AA.  IMO, that is paranoia.  So worst case, you get "Closed by Creditor", and best case you to keep your account, maybe even grow your account, and use the benefits that come with the card.  Btw ... I have a "Closed by Creditor" on my CR (OCCU), and my score is over 800 ....

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Anonymous
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA


@bk510 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Do you think these CLD and account closings happen mostly on Barclays own cards, or do they also happen on co-branded cards like the jetBlue? I hope not, but I'll just have to see what happens, I guess.


hey Bella, Question about Golden 1 CU.....Do they SP or HP for membership and chking acct?


II went in expecting a HP from EQ or EX, but it was a SP for me to join and open my share and checking accounts The rep did say that they pull either EQ or EX before she looked, then said no it's a SP. I know it will be a HP when I eventually apply for their Visa, though.

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wasCB14
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA


@sillykitty1 wrote:

@CreditMagic7 wrote:

That's the thing about Barclays.

 

They have a special pool of cardholders they keep close and see to their satisfaction, and then there's everybody else Smiley Very Happy


This makes it sound like there is some secret criteria, or Barclay's just chooses some card holders at random.  It is pretty clear from all of the AA stories that Barclays is risk adverse.  They are particularly sensitive to aggressive credit seeking.  So if you have a Barclay's card, and want to keep it, either moderate your credit seeking, or have a otherwise very strong profile to offset the risk factor.

 

Barclay's wouldn't be in business if they were alienate the majority of their cardholders and only satisfying a "special pool of cardholders"  

 

Threads like these make Barclay's seem like the boogeyman, like there is no rhyme or reason for their actions.  It encourages people to irrational things like proactively close thier Barclay's account in fear of an AA.  IMO, that is paranoia.  So worst case, you get "Closed by Creditor", and best case you to keep your account, maybe even grow your account, and use the benefits that come with the card.  Btw ... I have a "Closed by Creditor" on my CR (OCCU), and my score is over 800 ....


These threads do make Barclaycard sound like they bogeyman.

 

The problem with statements like "I got a card with them a year ago, added a few more accounts, and now they CLD'ed me" is that "a few" is often like 15 or 20 cards, but some readers think it means 2 or 3.

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negg
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA

We never get the "Whole" story on these CLD.  So I'm always taking these with a grain of salt.  

CSR.........11,900.......Delta Amex $11,200.........Marriott Rewards Premier $8000.......Discover IT $9700......Citi Preferred $8600.......Chase Freedom $10,800.....Barclay(apple) $11,600......BofA $1500.......Capital One $7400......FNO $9800......Barclay(Hawaiian airlines)$11,000......Citi Costco $15,000. June 1st 2013 0 credit cards and 575 fico. Today 117K in credit and 812 fico and ZERO INQUIRIES......ZERO. 2018 goal. 825 fico.
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Anonymous
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA

My story is exactly what it is. Haven't applied for anything since April and that was my discover card ( which they already doubled my CL. Only thing that changed was my truck was totaled. I had to get a new car. 3 hard pulls on my credit. Financed through ally. Bought a 60k car. Put down 18.5k. 1 month later cld by barclay. I have about the same revolving credit, same amount of cards, same uti, about 1%. Score has gone up. There is no "story". The only new thing in my credit was "installment loan was high" but I really don't consider getting a new car and paying almost 1/3 of it up front to be considered high.
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fltireguy
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA


@Anonymous wrote:
My story is exactly what it is. Haven't applied for anything since April and that was my discover card ( which they already doubled my CL. Only thing that changed was my truck was totaled. I had to get a new car. 3 hard pulls on my credit. Financed through ally. Bought a 60k car. Put down 18.5k. 1 month later cld by barclay. I have about the same revolving credit, same amount of cards, same uti, about 1%. Score has gone up. There is no "story". The only new thing in my credit was "installment loan was high" but I really don't consider getting a new car and paying almost 1/3 of it up front to be considered high.

Apparently their genius risk modeling software thought it was too high. 

That's the beauty of taking the human out of the equation, and replacing it with a computer program that sees black and white. Why punish someone that HAS NO HISTORY OF LATES, AND HAS LOW UTILIZATION!? That's where I am lost on this whole thing. But, in my case, the human still said that there was nothing that they could do to restore my limit... Thank god I don't need Barclays..lol

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Total CL $398600, plus car and RV loan.
Ooh. Ooh. Getting closer to that $500K mark!
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Anonymous
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Re: Barclay CLD/AA

Yea I gotta wait till next month now. Card is sitting at 82% uti now. I'm gonna wait until the payment clears and call the CRA and send over the zero balance on the card. Try and get them to update it for me. I'm hearing that sometimes they will do that.
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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: Barclay CLD/AA


@fltireguy wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
My story is exactly what it is. Haven't applied for anything since April and that was my discover card ( which they already doubled my CL. Only thing that changed was my truck was totaled. I had to get a new car. 3 hard pulls on my credit. Financed through ally. Bought a 60k car. Put down 18.5k. 1 month later cld by barclay. I have about the same revolving credit, same amount of cards, same uti, about 1%. Score has gone up. There is no "story". The only new thing in my credit was "installment loan was high" but I really don't consider getting a new car and paying almost 1/3 of it up front to be considered high.

Apparently their genius risk modeling software thought it was too high. 

That's the beauty of taking the human out of the equation, and replacing it with a computer program that sees black and white. Why punish someone that HAS NO HISTORY OF LATES, AND HAS LOW UTILIZATION!? That's where I am lost on this whole thing. But, in my case, the human still said that there was nothing that they could do to restore my limit... Thank god I don't need Barclays..lol


But don't forget BK, medical collections, and a lot of new debt on a depreciating asset (even if the new account replaced an old installment loan). Maybe OP needs to spend that much on transportation for professional or weather/road condition reasons, but it seems like a lot for someone with a checkered credit history.

 

Just because a bank extends credit doesn't mean they have no concerns. $2700 was already a low enough CL to be setting off alarms.

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