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@evil_ducky wrote:
Groceries/gas --> Amex BCE or BCP; BankAmericard 321 Rewards if you do a lot of grocery shopping at Target or Walmart; Sallie Mae Barclaycard if you spend limited amounts on groceries/gas
Restaurants/Fast Food --> Amex Costco TrueEarnings; US Bank Cash+; quarterly cards like Discover or Chase
Utilities --> US Bank Cash+; Huntington Voice
Amazon --> !Sallie Mae Barclaycard!
Cash + doesn't have a utilities/bills category any longer. The only thing close to a bill category is one for cell phone and one for gym membership. I think Fidelity Amex (2% back), Fidelity Visa (1.5% back), or Capital One Quicksilver (1.5% back) would be good for bill pay.
@Bman70 wrote:
@longtimelurker wrote:
1) Sallie Mae, 5% gas and groceries up to $250 per month each (+ 5% on bookstores including Amazon, up to $750 per month)
2) Amex Blue Cash Preferred, 6% groceries up to $6K per year, 3% gas (and 3% select department stores)
3) Amex Everyday Preferred: 3MR groceries up to $6K a year, 2MR gas (and select department stores) 50% if 30 or more purchases per month
4) Amex Blue Cash: 5% groceries, 5% gas (and 5% drug stores) no cap, after initial $6.5K a year
Wow 6% is the highest I've seen. Is that BCP straight cash or points? I'm guessing cash hence the name? But the regular BC might match it with 5% instead of 3 on gas. I'll need to research those thanks!
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@evil_ducky wrote:
Well, BCE is never the solution, Sallie Mae is always better for this. Isn't 321 Rewards limited as well, why is that preferable to Sallie Mae
Not everyone spends less than $250 a month on grocery and discount stores, so BCE is a good mid-line alternative for someone who doesn't spend enough to justify the BCP's AF. BCE does give 3% on groceries as opposed to the BofA's 2% and vice versa on the gas, and people have different priorities. But the advantage of the BofA and the Sallie Mae over Amex is the grocery discount as discount stores like Target and Wally World. I just got the Sallie Mae myself as well, but it *is* a small cap for gas and groceries, so I don't assume it will work for everyone.
You and the other posters have excellent answers as well; I just posted mine before I refreshed.
My point was as TMWC infamous chart posted later shows, the BCE is ALWAYS inferior to the Sallie Mae on gas and groceries. This is because the higher cap is undone by the lower rate. So, apart from select department stores (and 2% is nothing special!) there really is no case for BCE as a grocery/gas card (and the Everyday is a better free Amex card if that is what is desired!)
@celluloid17 wrote:
@evil_ducky wrote:
Groceries/gas --> Amex BCE or BCP; BankAmericard 321 Rewards if you do a lot of grocery shopping at Target or Walmart; Sallie Mae Barclaycard if you spend limited amounts on groceries/gas
Restaurants/Fast Food --> Amex Costco TrueEarnings; US Bank Cash+; quarterly cards like Discover or Chase
Utilities --> US Bank Cash+; Huntington Voice
Amazon --> !Sallie Mae Barclaycard!Cash + doesn't have a utilities/bills category any longer. The only thing close to a bill category is one for cell phone and one for gym memberships. I think Fidelity Amex (2% back), Fidelity Visa (1.5% back), or Capital One Quicksilver (1.5% back) would be good for bill pay.
Boo... Good to know. Thanks for the catch.
@evil_ducky wrote:Not everyone spends less than $250 a month on grocery and discount stores
Exactly, I'm higher in both categories. So far the BCP looks like my rewards would easily cover the AF plus tidy profit
@longtimelurker wrote:
@evil_ducky wrote:Well, BCE is never the solution, Sallie Mae is always better for this. Isn't 321 Rewards limited as well, why is that preferable to Sallie Mae
Not everyone spends less than $250 a month on grocery and discount stores, so BCE is a good mid-line alternative for someone who doesn't spend enough to justify the BCP's AF. BCE does give 3% on groceries as opposed to the BofA's 2% and vice versa on the gas, and people have different priorities. But the advantage of the BofA and the Sallie Mae over Amex is the grocery discount as discount stores like Target and Wally World. I just got the Sallie Mae myself as well, but it *is* a small cap for gas and groceries, so I don't assume it will work for everyone.
You and the other posters have excellent answers as well; I just posted mine before I refreshed.
My point was as TMWC infamous chart posted later shows, the BCE is ALWAYS inferior to the Sallie Mae on gas and groceries. This is because the higher cap is undone by the lower rate. So, apart from select department stores (and 2% is nothing special!) there really is no case for BCE as a grocery/gas card (and the Everyday is a better free Amex card if that is what is desired!)
Makes sense. I guess two Sallie Maes is the answer! lol
@Bman70 wrote:
@longtimelurker wrote:
1) Sallie Mae, 5% gas and groceries up to $250 per month each (+ 5% on bookstores including Amazon, up to $750 per month)
2) Amex Blue Cash Preferred, 6% groceries up to $6K per year, 3% gas (and 3% select department stores)
3) Amex Everyday Preferred: 3MR groceries up to $6K a year, 2MR gas (and select department stores) 50% if 30 or more purchases per month
4) Amex Blue Cash: 5% groceries, 5% gas (and 5% drug stores) no cap, after initial $6.5K a year
Wow 6% is the highest I've seen. Is that BCP straight cash or points? I'm guessing cash hence the name? But the regular BC might match it with 5% instead of 3 on gas. I'll need to research those thanks!
If you are using the BC as Amex intends (rather than for buying certain things at drug stores say) you need to spend a lot on groceries to overcome that yearly 6.5K threshold. This is the opposite of the BCP cap, you don't get 5% UNTIL you have spent that, you get 1% at groceries, gas and drugstores, and 0.5% elsewhere in that initial yearly spend. In effect, it is like an annual fee, to use this card you need to accept lower rewards until you reach the threshold, and then it is golden!
So far unless I'm missing something the BCP seems like it was designed for my spending habits. Grocery highest, then gas.. I wouldn't use it for the 1% other stuff, instead go to my Quicksilver or maybe an Amazon. Just got a preapproval for the Amex Everyday in the mail, so hopefully that's a good indicator for the BCP. Great suggestions, thanks!
@Bman70 wrote:So far unless I'm missing something the BCP seems like it was designed for my spending habits. Grocery highest, then gas.. I wouldn't use it for the 1% other stuff, instead go to my Quicksilver or maybe an Amazon. Just got a preapproval for the Amex Everyday in the mail, so hopefully that's a good indicator for the BCP. Great suggestions, thanks!
Well, take a look at TMWC's chart as well, with your estimated gas and grocery spend. The BCP has a $75 annual fee, and a lower rate on the first $250 of gas per month, so in some cases the Sallie Mae might still win.
The other choice is the Everyday Preferred, but this decision between this and BCP depends on just one question, can I use Membership Rewards points well (enough). A common valuation of MR is 2c per point, and if you can do this, it blows the BCP away (getting 9% on the first $6K of groceries, 6% on gas and 3% on everything else, assuming you use it 30 times a month). The card created a lot of excitement among those who can use the points, as a minimum of 3% on everything is pretty good.
@longtimelurker wrote:
@evil_ducky wrote:
Groceries/gas --> Amex BCE or BCP; BankAmericard 321 Rewards if you do a lot of grocery shopping at Target or Walmart; Sallie Mae Barclaycard if you spend limited amounts on groceries/gas
Restaurants/Fast Food --> Amex Costco TrueEarnings; US Bank Cash+; quarterly cards like Discover or Chase
Utilities --> US Bank Cash+; Huntington Voice
Amazon --> !Sallie Mae Barclaycard!Well, BCE is never the solution, Sallie Mae is always better for this. Isn't 321 Rewards limited as well, why is that preferable to Sallie Mae
$1500 I believe but I can't remember if thats per qtr or month