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CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

I had a BK in 1993 in which CITI was included (3 cards/total approximately $4,200) charged off due to BK.  I called CITI one day to see what the totals were because I considered repaying. if I could.  The representative wanted payment then and there, as if the accounts were currently due.  Since the accounts were included in my 1993 BK, they are ancient history, to me anyway.  Not to CITI.  I decided to see if I'm on that magical listing with CITI and apply.  Not sure what CRA they use, but I believe it's Experian which has a security freeze.  I received the following message:

 

Step 3: Approval Status Application Received

Thank you for applying for the Citi ThankYou® Card.
We sincerely appreciate your interest and after carefully considering your application we are unable to approve your request. You will receive written notification with the reasons for the decision. If you have further questions once you receive the letter, please call us at the number listed.

 

I checked Experian and Equifax, no pulls from CITI.  Will check TU tomorrow when I can pull another report, but I doubt any CRA was pulled.  I would safely assume that there is such a list and I have made it.  Not that I'm proud of that.  I acknowledge my past mistakes and have finally learned from them.  I'm sure the letter will say something to the effect of my past accounts since the above didn't say "Pending further review".  Obviously, CITI is well within their rights to extend, or in my case, not to extend credit again. 

EX FICO 739 EQ FICO 710 TU FICO 741 *************Total Credit Limits: $662,750 The past is the past. In my wallet: Alaska Airlines Visa (13.5k), Amex(25.6k), Amex Green (NPSL), BankAmericard (42k), BBVA (20k), Blispay (7.5k), Cabelas (12k) Capital One (50.2k), Chase(28.5k), CITI(17k), Diners Club(2 @15k), Discover IT/Chrome(27.5k), 5/3(25.5k), Equality Visa(5k), Huntington Voice(2 @12k), Key Bank(3.5k), NASA FCU(5k), NFCU(65k), FNBO's Overstock Mastercard(9K), Old National Bank Amex (8k), Rakuten Mastercard(7k), Sun Country Airlines(12.5k), Synchrony(104k), Penfed Promise(5k), TD Aeroplan/Client Rewards Visas (22.5k), USAA(50k), US Bank(6.5k), and WF Plat Visa(37.5k).
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Registered: ‎10-21-2012
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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

Yes, that appears to be the case.  Citi, Chase, NFCU, BOA and definitely AMEX do have long memories.  However, there are instances in which some folks eventually are able to restablish a relationship with their past "burned" lender, but for other folks (even after 10+ some years) is still a no-go.

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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

AFAIK, if they were IIB they could not accept pyt. Others can correct me -bk is not my specialty.
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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

20 years is a long time. You would think they would have forgotten by now. Everyone makes mistakes.  Have you ever talked to them OP or recon?

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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

@09Lexie and Fin,

 

I don't believe they could take the payment legally, but representative was prepared to take it.  I just called CITI and they said my application is pending due to freeze.  I won't be pursuing because I'm in the garden, so to speak.  On a side note, Chase was included in that 1993 BK.  They let me back in in March 2013 with the Chase Freedom after recon for $500.  I kept it for 6 months PIF then closed it in July.  Just applied and was instantly approved for Chase Slate a few days ago $2,500.

EX FICO 739 EQ FICO 710 TU FICO 741 *************Total Credit Limits: $662,750 The past is the past. In my wallet: Alaska Airlines Visa (13.5k), Amex(25.6k), Amex Green (NPSL), BankAmericard (42k), BBVA (20k), Blispay (7.5k), Cabelas (12k) Capital One (50.2k), Chase(28.5k), CITI(17k), Diners Club(2 @15k), Discover IT/Chrome(27.5k), 5/3(25.5k), Equality Visa(5k), Huntington Voice(2 @12k), Key Bank(3.5k), NASA FCU(5k), NFCU(65k), FNBO's Overstock Mastercard(9K), Old National Bank Amex (8k), Rakuten Mastercard(7k), Sun Country Airlines(12.5k), Synchrony(104k), Penfed Promise(5k), TD Aeroplan/Client Rewards Visas (22.5k), USAA(50k), US Bank(6.5k), and WF Plat Visa(37.5k).
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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

Based on the call to CITI, maybe I'm not on the list afterall.  I won't proceed because I don't think my stats are sufficient for the card.

EX FICO 739 EQ FICO 710 TU FICO 741 *************Total Credit Limits: $662,750 The past is the past. In my wallet: Alaska Airlines Visa (13.5k), Amex(25.6k), Amex Green (NPSL), BankAmericard (42k), BBVA (20k), Blispay (7.5k), Cabelas (12k) Capital One (50.2k), Chase(28.5k), CITI(17k), Diners Club(2 @15k), Discover IT/Chrome(27.5k), 5/3(25.5k), Equality Visa(5k), Huntington Voice(2 @12k), Key Bank(3.5k), NASA FCU(5k), NFCU(65k), FNBO's Overstock Mastercard(9K), Old National Bank Amex (8k), Rakuten Mastercard(7k), Sun Country Airlines(12.5k), Synchrony(104k), Penfed Promise(5k), TD Aeroplan/Client Rewards Visas (22.5k), USAA(50k), US Bank(6.5k), and WF Plat Visa(37.5k).
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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

Any reason why you only kept Freedom open for 4 months?
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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

@Pat,

 

I'm going for a 3x CLI with Amex on 10/28/13 on my BCP.  Depending upon what happens there, I might unfreeze and attempt a recon (doubtful, but possible).

EX FICO 739 EQ FICO 710 TU FICO 741 *************Total Credit Limits: $662,750 The past is the past. In my wallet: Alaska Airlines Visa (13.5k), Amex(25.6k), Amex Green (NPSL), BankAmericard (42k), BBVA (20k), Blispay (7.5k), Cabelas (12k) Capital One (50.2k), Chase(28.5k), CITI(17k), Diners Club(2 @15k), Discover IT/Chrome(27.5k), 5/3(25.5k), Equality Visa(5k), Huntington Voice(2 @12k), Key Bank(3.5k), NASA FCU(5k), NFCU(65k), FNBO's Overstock Mastercard(9K), Old National Bank Amex (8k), Rakuten Mastercard(7k), Sun Country Airlines(12.5k), Synchrony(104k), Penfed Promise(5k), TD Aeroplan/Client Rewards Visas (22.5k), USAA(50k), US Bank(6.5k), and WF Plat Visa(37.5k).
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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

If you are waiting on a CLI with Amex, I wouldn't be applying for a new card. Inq's/accts just lower your CS.
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Re: CITI is like an elephant (They never forget)

@09Lexie,

 

Only stupidity on my part.  I asked for a CLI and they said they had to do a HP and I said no thank you and closed card.  I couldn't really do much with $500 CL based on how I use my cards.  I basically pay all my bills with my cards and then when I am paid, I pif all credit cards.  I only use 30% or less of available credit and pif before statement cuts so the $500 really wasn't working for me.  At that time, I didn't have the Discover or Amex cards.

EX FICO 739 EQ FICO 710 TU FICO 741 *************Total Credit Limits: $662,750 The past is the past. In my wallet: Alaska Airlines Visa (13.5k), Amex(25.6k), Amex Green (NPSL), BankAmericard (42k), BBVA (20k), Blispay (7.5k), Cabelas (12k) Capital One (50.2k), Chase(28.5k), CITI(17k), Diners Club(2 @15k), Discover IT/Chrome(27.5k), 5/3(25.5k), Equality Visa(5k), Huntington Voice(2 @12k), Key Bank(3.5k), NASA FCU(5k), NFCU(65k), FNBO's Overstock Mastercard(9K), Old National Bank Amex (8k), Rakuten Mastercard(7k), Sun Country Airlines(12.5k), Synchrony(104k), Penfed Promise(5k), TD Aeroplan/Client Rewards Visas (22.5k), USAA(50k), US Bank(6.5k), and WF Plat Visa(37.5k).

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