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As y'all know, I'm trying to get AMEX in mid September (6 months after my failed app). After a recon with AMEX I was told to aim for credit score of 650-680 and try to remove one of my major derogs left (4 right now).
Progress: I have gone from 10-12 bad tradelines down to 4!!! I have removed 3 CA's (no CA's at all on report) and 2 CO's (only 1 CO reporting). Additionally, I added two secured cards in June. (prior to this, I did not have any credit cards in last 7 years - do have 2 old closed CC's still reporting in with perfect history)
My record on EX has the following negatives:
1. Sallie Mae 1x 30 day late
2. Sallie Mae 1x 90 day late, 1x90 day late 5 years ago
3. Verizon charge off (now paid but still reporting); and
4. Cap1 Auto (still a mess 5x 60 day and 10x 30 day)
Positives:
1. 2 new cc's with clean payment history
2. 7k less debt in loans since March
3. 18 old Sallie Mae loans all paid as agreed
4. 2 CU loans Paid as agreed
5. 8 year AAoA
6. 6 figure salary with very stable work history; and
7. Never filed BK, or had any liens, judgments or other public records.
The March denial letter listed these 4 factors as reason for denial:
1. Serious delinquency and public record or collection filed
2. Time since delinquency is too recent or unknown
3. Proportion of loan balances to loan amounts is too high; and
4. Too few accounts currently paid as agreed
Bottom line, have I rehabbed enough to get gold card? Should I apply for zync? My EX will probably be around 670 at app time. (Edit- oh, my original EX as indicated by AMEX pull was 542 in March 2012)
I'd wait a while. No idea how long it would take but that still seems pretty risky unless you just don't care about HPs.
Maybe try their pre-approval link in Jan to see if anything pops up.
What's your credit utilization on your current credit cards? And how much debt do you have total on your loans?
Amex looks not only at income but income to debt ratio. You could make 6 figures but could deny you if you have debt in the 6 figure range.
I would wait until your 2 new CC age for about 3 months. They will start boosting your score as long as you PIF each month.
It seems after following these forums for a while, AMEX approval rate really jumps if someone's score is above 680. Even at 680 there seems to be a pretty high rate of rejections because of lack of adequate history with revolving CC.
@drkaje wrote:I'd wait a while. No idea how long it would take but that still seems pretty risky unless you just don't care about HPs.
Maybe try their pre-approval link in Jan to see if anything pops up.
I agree, i'd wait at least 6 months then give it a shot!
@Duncanrr wrote:
6 more months or until my 6 months from last app is up. So it's december or September ?
At least January.
There just seems to be a lot more you can do (credit repair-wise) to be more attractive. None of the reasons for your denial have really changed.
More credit probably won't help. Just garden and send GW letters, and keep repairing. They may look at other CRAs on borderline cases, I don't know. With the scores in your signature and negatives listed (first post), I personally wouldn't go for it.
Even if you don't do repair, time will make some of the negatives seem less unattractive.