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Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

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Duncanrr
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Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

As y'all know, I'm trying to get AMEX in mid September (6 months after my failed app). After a recon with AMEX I was told to aim for credit score of 650-680 and try to remove one of my major derogs left (4 right now).

 

Progress: I have gone from 10-12 bad tradelines down to 4!!! I have removed 3 CA's (no CA's at all on report) and 2 CO's (only 1 CO reporting). Additionally, I added two secured cards in June. (prior to this, I did not have any credit cards in last 7 years - do have 2 old closed CC's still reporting in with perfect history)

 

My record on EX has the following negatives:    

          1. Sallie Mae 1x 30 day late

          2. Sallie Mae 1x 90 day late, 1x90 day late 5 years ago

          3. Verizon charge off (now paid but still reporting); and

          4. Cap1 Auto (still a mess 5x 60 day and 10x 30 day)

 

Positives:

          1. 2 new cc's with clean payment history

          2. 7k less debt in loans since March

          3. 18 old Sallie Mae loans all paid as agreed

          4.  2 CU loans Paid as agreed

          5. 8 year AAoA

          6. 6 figure salary with very stable work history; and

          7. Never filed BK, or had any liens, judgments or other public records.

 

 

The March denial letter listed these 4 factors as reason for denial:                

         1. Serious delinquency and public record or collection filed

         2. Time since delinquency is too recent or unknown

         3. Proportion of loan balances to loan amounts is too high; and

         4. Too few accounts currently paid as agreed

 

Bottom line, have I rehabbed enough to get gold card? Should I apply for zync? My EX will probably be around 670 at app time. (Edit- oh, my original EX as indicated by AMEX pull was 542 in March 2012)



Starting Score: EQ 551 TU 548 CK 607on 6/8/12, EX 542(AMEX pull 3/4/12)
Current Score: EQ 808 TU --- EX --- CK 804(FAKO-EX 821, EQ 823, TU 803)
Goal Score: 750

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drkaje
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

I'd wait a while. No idea how long it would take but that still seems pretty risky unless you just don't care about HPs.

 

Maybe try their pre-approval link in Jan to see if anything pops up. Smiley Happy


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Current Score: EX 753 FICO, EQ 737FICO, TU 738
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Anonymous
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

What's your credit utilization on your current credit cards? And how much debt do you have total on your loans?

 

Amex looks not only at income but income to debt ratio. You could make 6 figures but could deny you if you have debt in the 6 figure range.

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Duncanrr
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

I didn't have any open cards at first app so I had 100% utilization. Now with new cards my utilization is 5%. My debt is about 100k. Car note is 390 per month and student loans is 600. My debt to income ratio is under 10%.


Starting Score: EQ 551 TU 548 CK 607on 6/8/12, EX 542(AMEX pull 3/4/12)
Current Score: EQ 808 TU --- EX --- CK 804(FAKO-EX 821, EQ 823, TU 803)
Goal Score: 750

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jamie123
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

I would wait until your 2 new CC age for about 3 months. They will start boosting your score as long as you PIF each month.

 

It seems after following these forums for a while, AMEX approval rate really jumps if someone's score is above 680. Even at 680 there seems to be a pretty high rate of rejections because of lack of adequate history with revolving CC.


Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
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LS2982
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?


@drkaje wrote:

I'd wait a while. No idea how long it would take but that still seems pretty risky unless you just don't care about HPs.

 

Maybe try their pre-approval link in Jan to see if anything pops up. Smiley Happy


I agree, i'd wait at least 6 months then give it a shot!




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Duncanrr
Valued Contributor

Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

6 more months or until my 6 months from last app is up. So it's december or September ?


Starting Score: EQ 551 TU 548 CK 607on 6/8/12, EX 542(AMEX pull 3/4/12)
Current Score: EQ 808 TU --- EX --- CK 804(FAKO-EX 821, EQ 823, TU 803)
Goal Score: 750

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drkaje
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?


@Duncanrr wrote:
6 more months or until my 6 months from last app is up. So it's december or September ?

At least January.

 

There just seems to be a lot more you can do (credit repair-wise) to be more attractive. None of the reasons for your denial have really changed.


Starting Score: 675
Current Score: EX 753 FICO, EQ 737FICO, TU 738
Goal Score: 776 FICO


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Duncanrr
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

Would it help to open another cc? I want to add third card in mix. Should I wait till I app for Amex or get one now that pulls TU in app?


Starting Score: EQ 551 TU 548 CK 607on 6/8/12, EX 542(AMEX pull 3/4/12)
Current Score: EQ 808 TU --- EX --- CK 804(FAKO-EX 821, EQ 823, TU 803)
Goal Score: 750

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drkaje
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Re: Chances of AMEX approval in 2.5 months?

More credit probably won't help. Just garden and send GW letters, and keep repairing. They may look at other CRAs on borderline cases, I don't know. With the scores in your signature and negatives listed (first post), I personally wouldn't go for it.

 

Even if you don't do repair, time will make some of the negatives seem less unattractive.


Starting Score: 675
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