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ivyalmighty
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Couple questions about blacklisting

Do these companies blacklist you based on past payment history with them?
 
Chase/First USA Bank
Crap 1
FIA (also secretly BofA and who knows who else)... do they do it in the individual companies, or if you're bad with one FIA company, are you blocked from all of them?
 
Also, is blacklisting based on the CC brand as well? I had an old Suntrust (FIA) MC that I managed poorly for a few years... would that prevent me from ever getting in w/ MC through any other companies as well?
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shawnette
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

I can only answer the last question: No.  Screwing up 1 MC account will not prevent you from getting another MC from another issuer.
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beenthere
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

No secret about BofA. They flat told me CC of any kind because of old BK I included them in.
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7-04-08....... TU=688, EQ=678, EX=682.......
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FretlessMayhem
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting



beenthere wrote:
No secret about BofA. They flat told me CC of any kind because of old BK I included them in.





Well, at least they were honest =).
Here we go again...
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shreco
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

Possible that you can back door the issuers that have you blacklisted for cold CC apps.

Use some other products like auto loans, banking, mortgage to establish a relationship. Probably YMMV though.

I bank with BofA got in on secured then they took over MBNA which I had CO in 2004. I still get CLI's and product changes.
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marty56
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

I closed a card with Cap 1 a few years back and have never gotten any offer from them again including there pre-approval website.
 
Dont want to waste an INQ to find out and I have access to better CC if need be.
 
I had a BofA card in DMP and they treat DMP people worse then if you do a CO.
 
Just my thoughts but with so many choices out there and possible better ones, why would you go back to a CCC that you had a problem with in the past?
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creditreformer
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

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Here is my experience based on chargeoffs w/ba and cap 1.  note: chargeoffs were OFF my reports before I applied for ccs again.  new ba/cap 1 ccs were issued in 4/08.

 

Ba- declined for ‘regular’ cc (probably due to my low ficos rather than my past w/BA), issued 99/500 cc which, per BA will unsecure in 9-12 mos./graduate to a ‘regular’ cc w/a HIGH CL if I keep it in ‘good standing’ (PIF, low utilization, no lates, overlimits, etc.)

 

Cap 1- instant approval, issued cc (low cl- 300), indicated i would get 'regular' CLIs if i keep it in 'good standing'

 

Neither co. mentioned my past history w/them, so apparently they don’t blacklist for forever.  Amex on the other hand…well, they DO blacklist for forever apparently and said as much when I tried to take them up on a preapproved offer they sent me.  note: the chargeoff w/amex was OFF my reports at the time.  amex has a VERY long memory as my 'bad behavior' w/them is going on 10+ yrs and apparently they'll never love me again :smileysad:



Message Edited by creditreformer on 05-13-2008 06:57 PM
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beenthere
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

I didn't have a problem with B of A, they had a problem with me. :smileyvery-happy:

marty56 wrote:
I closed a card with Cap 1 a few years back and have never gotten any offer from them again including there pre-approval website.
 
Dont want to waste an INQ to find out and I have access to better CC if need be.
 
I had a BofA card in DMP and they treat DMP people worse then if you do a CO.
 
Just my thoughts but with so many choices out there and possible better ones, why would you go back to a CCC that you had a problem with in the past?



1-14-08....... TU=683, EQ=667, EX=666
7-04-08....... TU=688, EQ=678, EX=682.......
.......4 of my 5 cards and a new car later.
2/13/09 and forever EX 693
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nicemann
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

Chase does not blacklist.  I had a charge off for $2000 back in 2002.  I applied the other day for their freedom card and was declined.  I called the recon line and they asked me about the charge off from 2002.  I explained I was bascially young and had credit problems, she said ok and approved me for a $3000 CL.  I have a thread about them already going on. 
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ivyalmighty
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Re: Couple questions about blacklisting

marty - good question.
 
My question was more because it seems like a lot of the CC companies are so incestuous, like the whole FIA/BofA/who-knows-else thing.. I don't want to waste my time on other companies that might be held by so-and-so, who remembers my bad behavior from way-back-when. Know what I mean?

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