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It says Equifax.
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The Equifax score that is provided here, I believe,  is Beacon 5.0.  Most lenders seem to use this model.  Discover might use a credit card enhanced version, or some additional internal model, that could give you a different score.  They may have used Equfiax data, but the score based on their internal model may be different than a standard FICO score.  OR, your score may have changed in the interim when you applied and when you pulled your FICO score from here. In short there are so many factors other than your actual score that could be considered if your application went to manual review vs. a computer generated one.  You aren't giving enough details on your credit history to let us see where you're at.  Score isn't everything.  Smiley Happy

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Thanks, it just seems so much in its own section that it doesn't seem like it's manipulated. They say previously in the letter that they do have a scoring system they use, but this section says 'in addition to' their scoring system, which infers separate. A bankruptcy is the primary reason. 8 yrs ago, so it's almost gone. The other stuff dorm credit report is short length of accounts, proportion of loan balance to loan amounts too high, and too few accounts currently paid as agreed. As for the good stuff listed on myFico! It says no missed payments, Low credit usage, and recent cc use.
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Sorry it says, "we also obtained your credit score from" blah blah blah. Making it sound like its an untampered score.
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dyv8914 wrote:

Did the letter explain what their main issues were with your app? Regardless of what scoring model is used, those are generally the same points dragging down your score on any model. You can also call the backdoor number and try to get a recon.


What's the backdoor number and recon? Reconsideration?
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Please_Explain wrote:
Thanks, it just seems so much in its own section that it doesn't seem like it's manipulated. They say previously in the letter that they do have a scoring system they use, but this section says 'in addition to' their scoring system, which infers separate. A bankruptcy is the primary reason. 8 yrs ago, so it's almost gone. The other stuff dorm credit report is short length of accounts, proportion of loan balance to loan amounts too high, and too few accounts currently paid as agreed. As for the good stuff listed on myFico! It says no missed payments, Low credit usage, and recent cc use.

Thanks!  A lot of what you mentioned are the reasons for your denial regardless of your score, although it explains the difference in your scores if they use an internal "enhancement".   Discover, I've read is not BK friendly, doesn't like a lot of recent inquiries, or high utilization on existing accounts.  They don't like to see recent 30, 60 or 90 day lates - which may come under the "too few accounts paid as agreed statement".  How many credit accounts do you have, and what is the history on them?  What is your average age of accounts?  

 

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Please_Explain wrote:

dyv8914 wrote:

Did the letter explain what their main issues were with your app? Regardless of what scoring model is used, those are generally the same points dragging down your score on any model. You can also call the backdoor number and try to get a recon.


What's the backdoor number and recon? Reconsideration?

Discover: 888-676-3695 (Recon)

 

You can call Discover and ask for them to reconsider a denied application. They may do a manual review, pull an additional credit report, etc. But since you already took a hit with the inquiry there's no reason not to at least call and find out. Good luck!

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6 credit accounts! No mortgage account, Recent car loan started in oct '11. Haven't been late on anything in years and years, basically since bankruptcy 8 yrs. I don't use all credit accounts every month, but the ones I do use are paid off every month. I have no debt except the car payment.
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dyv8914 wrote:

Please_Explain wrote:

dyv8914 wrote:

Did the letter explain what their main issues were with your app? Regardless of what scoring model is used, those are generally the same points dragging down your score on any model. You can also call the backdoor number and try to get a recon.


What's the backdoor number and recon? Reconsideration?

Discover: 888-676-3695 (Recon)

 

You can call Discover and ask for them to reconsider a denied application. They may do a manual review, pull an additional credit report, etc. But since you already took a hit with the inquiry there's no reason not to at least call and find out. Good luck!


Thanks, will try that.
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Please_Explain wrote:
It was a discover card. myFICO purchase gave me 693, with the cc company giving me 643. Not great by any means, but probably on the border of being approved or not. My problem is not being denied. I don't really need the card anyway. It is the fact I paid for this service and it wasn't the same as what they give to others. It makes me feel like its a waste.


Why did you choose to apply for a discover card if you don't really need it or seem to care for one?


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