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This is my view on it, BofA does seem to be a bit more trigger happy, but in the grand scheme of things, it's pointless to worry about it. Don't forget also that we are also measuring BofA's AA tendencies through the lens of the myFICO forum posts. For example, for the next year or so I am currently at high risk from AA from BofA, they are my highest card, I have taken the card from 1.7K to 18K in slightly less than a year, I also added 9 new accounts in my spree of last September. So if I get AA'd by BofA, it's not the end of the world, I currently have cards from five different creditors, so I will always have a functional card for car rentals, flights, etc. There are also many creditors to choose from, I can also add PenFed, NASA, heck even Capital One (Venture only) if I had to for diversity. So I view the first 18mo of my credit building as "sea trials", an opportunity to see which creditors don't cut it.
PS: If you are in a similar position as I am, recent app spree etc and you have a BofA account, there are things you can do to lessen your chance for AA:
@kdm31091 wrote:
Ultimately I agree that life's too short to worry about it. At the end of the day it's just credit cards and if AA happens deal with it, and life goes on.
Yep. This is the bottomline right here! I agree 100%. Life certainly goes on. No point in stressing over it.
@baller4life wrote:
@kdm31091 wrote:
Ultimately I agree that life's too short to worry about it. At the end of the day it's just credit cards and if AA happens deal with it, and life goes on.Yep. This is the bottomline right here! I agree 100%. Life certainly goes on. No point in stressing over it.
Agreed!
IME, I have not personally had any issues with AA from Barclay, but the biggest AA I received was from Citi and BoA. During CARD Act, Citi attempted to RJ me on 2 cards from 5.99% F and 5.74% V to around 19% V or so on both. I declined and opted out to preserve the existing rates, and as a result, Citi closed down about $27k in total credit limits that I had with them previously, not fun
BoA is a bit of a different story, they are actually my favorite cc lender of all, but they also did a $16k CLD to me on 2 accounts a few years ago, all simply for asking for an APR decrease. I have since been able to (albeit very slowly) start to build my total CL with them back over time, and even though they took the $16k CLD AA against me earlier, they are simply too important and valuable to my current card collection for me to want to close out any of my cards with them. I have to give them credit actually tbh, they could have potentially closed down my accounts completely, which would have been a much harsher punishment if they had, but thankfully they did not. My #1 favorite card in my present collection is my BoA Cash Rewards WMC, so it would hurt incredibly if they were to close that one down or take further AA on it, and so I have also taken recent action to reduce my risk of AA exposure with them by paying off huge amounts of my revolving balances with them, I think right now my total util with them is actually below 10%?
@baller4life wrote:
@kdm31091 wrote:
Ultimately I agree that life's too short to worry about it. At the end of the day it's just credit cards and if AA happens deal with it, and life goes on.Yep. This is the bottomline right here! I agree 100%. Life certainly goes on. No point in stressing over it.
Lol. I know all about this, but life definitely goes on!!
@galahad15 wrote:IME, I have not personally had any issues with AA from Barclay, but the biggest AA I received was from Citi and BoA. During CARD Act, Citi attempted to RJ me on 2 cards from 5.99% F and 5.74% V to around 19% V or so on both. I declined and opted out to preserve the existing rates, and as a result, Citi closed down about $27k in total credit limits that I had with them previously, not fun
BoA is a bit of a different story, they are actually my favorite cc lender of all, but they also did a $16k CLD to me on 2 accounts a few years ago, all simply for asking for an APR decrease. I have since been able to (albeit very slowly) start to build my total CL with them back over time, and even though they took the $16k CLD AA against me earlier, they are simply too important and valuable to my current card collection for me to want to close out any of my cards with them. I have to give them credit actually tbh, they could have potentially closed down my accounts completely, which would have been a much harsher punishment if they had, but thankfully they did not. My #1 favorite card in my present collection is my BoA Cash Rewards WMC, so it would hurt incredibly if they were to close that one down or take further AA on it, and so I have also taken recent action to reduce my risk of AA exposure with them by paying off huge amounts of my revolving balances with them, I think right now my total util with them is actually below 10%?
BOA is like that stern parent that puts you in time out. You might sulk and be mad at them for a lil while for punishing you. But, you never stop loving them! 💜
@Anonymous wrote:
@CreditGuy03 wrote:
@myjourney wrote:Creditors that will CLD you at the drop of a hat?
None you did something or something changed in your patterns or on CR's
Which then lead to AA
IMHO
Read my BOA post.
You keep saying that BOA was unreasonable to close your wife's account because she called asking about a hardship program. Maybe but have you considered that they may have information that there is a very high percentage of people that call asking about hardship programs that subsequently default on those accounts? People don't randomly call credit card companies just to find out about their hardship programs. Something must have been a concern that led your wife to make the call and bring attention to her account. I don't think this alone proves BoA was out of line at all.
The mere mention of asking about a hardship program is going to get anyone attention, and I would say quite promptly. Total consumer credit card debt has been in a slow but steady climb since 2010 with today the average household debt is $16,048. Age is also factored in to the risk model because the highest average debt age range is 45-54 years, followed 35-44 years, slighly less than 2nd highest is 55-64 years after that the >35 years and 65< numbers drop down to an average of a few less thousands of dollars. Another factor that goes in to those risk algos is the region you live in.
So sorry for the AA CG03 but you guys rang the bell just asking that question.
@baller4life wrote:
@Involver wrote:Whether or not one lender may have different risk critera than another is immaterial. At the end of the day, no bank takes adverse action against a customer for anything other than behavior which they deem a risk that they are unwilling to accept.
My point. Some lenders risk levels is set lower than others. They are all not created equal. The exact same behaviour does not trigger reaction from every lender.
All creditors are equal, but some creditors are more equal than others.
@CreditGuy03 wrote:After opening up two cards in the last 2 months. Barclays this morning decided to cut my credit with them from 7k to 5k. I called and they said it was to limit their exposure.
These guys are off their rocker and are more sensitive than a baby.
So that being said what are some other creditors out there that get spooked very easy and will give you a CLD for the slightest of reasons?
First on the List
BarclayCard
OP did you call Sir Barclays' Portfolio Credit dept to try and get limit reinstated? Number is in backdoor thread. They reinstated mines and I closed it soon after.