Delta changing frequent flier miles..now by price , not by miles.

[visorboy1974]

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@titanofold wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

Go read the delta page on facebook, and you're gonna see a "few" unhappy campers...

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I'm sure the ones who fly for the miles rather than the status will be extremely pissed.  They'll be missing out on a ton of miles.  Delta was likely forced into this due to the fact their unused miles on the books is staggeringly high and it counts as a liability for them when they do their quarterly numbers.  Time for them to make it pretty easy to use miles and in the meantime, don't give out as many in return so that unused total can get down to a better level and thus will help return a higher profit.    

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Some of the comments were funny as hell. One woman was complaining since she's GOLD, and couldn't believe there were 15+ others upgraded before her. I forget her name, but apparently the world revolved around her on the tarmac.

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Yes, Delta only has one gold member at any given time. That she has it means nobody else has it and that at most there should be no one in front of her. :loud eyeroll:

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Probably looking at over 1.5 million elites with 50% of them being Silver.  Meaning she's fighting with 750K members at her level or higher.  Flying from hub to hub, I'm sure there are some Diamonds that have trouble getting upgraded.  I fly United most of the time and I've seen 1Ks buried in the 50s on upgrade lists on flights between hubs.  As a United Premier Silver, I get easy upgrades from ORD to places like MSY and LAS, but unless I'm buying the upgrade, I won't ever sniff one to LAX, EWR or SFO.  Complimentary Upgrading is tough these days on any airline.        

[Burned2manybridgesB4]

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@titanofold wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

Go read the delta page on facebook, and you're gonna see a "few" unhappy campers...

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I'm sure the ones who fly for the miles rather than the status will be extremely pissed.  They'll be missing out on a ton of miles.  Delta was likely forced into this due to the fact their unused miles on the books is staggeringly high and it counts as a liability for them when they do their quarterly numbers.  Time for them to make it pretty easy to use miles and in the meantime, don't give out as many in return so that unused total can get down to a better level and thus will help return a higher profit.    

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Some of the comments were funny as hell. One woman was complaining since she's GOLD, and couldn't believe there were 15+ others upgraded before her. I forget her name, but apparently the world revolved around her on the tarmac.

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Yes, Delta only has one gold member at any given time. That she has it means nobody else has it and that at most there should be no one in front of her. :loud eyeroll:

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Probably looking at over 1.5 million elites with 50% of them being Silver.  Meaning she's fighting with 750K members at her level or higher.  Flying from hub to hub, I'm sure there are some Diamonds that have trouble getting upgraded.  I fly United most of the time and I've seen 1Ks buried in the 50s on upgrade lists on flights between hubs.  As a United Premier Silver, I get easy upgrades from ORD to places like MSY and LAS, but unless I'm buying the upgrade, I won't ever sniff one to LAX, EWR or SFO.  Complimentary Upgrading is tough these days on any airline.        

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Earning rewards, based on set terms is fine and dandy, but a lot of people lose sight that it's a business, like any other, trying to keep afloat, and maximize profit. I honestly don't fly enough to mess around with MQM/D's, but everyone has their "niche."
Making one customer happy will just piss off another.

[visorboy1974]

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@titanofold wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

Go read the delta page on facebook, and you're gonna see a "few" unhappy campers...

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I'm sure the ones who fly for the miles rather than the status will be extremely pissed.  They'll be missing out on a ton of miles.  Delta was likely forced into this due to the fact their unused miles on the books is staggeringly high and it counts as a liability for them when they do their quarterly numbers.  Time for them to make it pretty easy to use miles and in the meantime, don't give out as many in return so that unused total can get down to a better level and thus will help return a higher profit.    

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Some of the comments were funny as hell. One woman was complaining since she's GOLD, and couldn't believe there were 15+ others upgraded before her. I forget her name, but apparently the world revolved around her on the tarmac.

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Yes, Delta only has one gold member at any given time. That she has it means nobody else has it and that at most there should be no one in front of her. :loud eyeroll:

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Probably looking at over 1.5 million elites with 50% of them being Silver.  Meaning she's fighting with 750K members at her level or higher.  Flying from hub to hub, I'm sure there are some Diamonds that have trouble getting upgraded.  I fly United most of the time and I've seen 1Ks buried in the 50s on upgrade lists on flights between hubs.  As a United Premier Silver, I get easy upgrades from ORD to places like MSY and LAS, but unless I'm buying the upgrade, I won't ever sniff one to LAX, EWR or SFO.  Complimentary Upgrading is tough these days on any airline.        

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Earning rewards, based on set terms is fine and dandy, but a lot of people lose sight that it's a business, like any other, trying to keep afloat, and maximize profit. I honestly don't fly enough to mess around with MQM/D's, but everyone has their "niche."
Making one customer happy will just piss off another.

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They pissed off everybody with the MQDs last year.  Now it's time to piss off everybody withthe redeemable miles.  

[Burned2manybridgesB4]

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@titanofold wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

Go read the delta page on facebook, and you're gonna see a "few" unhappy campers...

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I'm sure the ones who fly for the miles rather than the status will be extremely pissed.  They'll be missing out on a ton of miles.  Delta was likely forced into this due to the fact their unused miles on the books is staggeringly high and it counts as a liability for them when they do their quarterly numbers.  Time for them to make it pretty easy to use miles and in the meantime, don't give out as many in return so that unused total can get down to a better level and thus will help return a higher profit.    

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Some of the comments were funny as hell. One woman was complaining since she's GOLD, and couldn't believe there were 15+ others upgraded before her. I forget her name, but apparently the world revolved around her on the tarmac.

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Yes, Delta only has one gold member at any given time. That she has it means nobody else has it and that at most there should be no one in front of her. :loud eyeroll:

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Probably looking at over 1.5 million elites with 50% of them being Silver.  Meaning she's fighting with 750K members at her level or higher.  Flying from hub to hub, I'm sure there are some Diamonds that have trouble getting upgraded.  I fly United most of the time and I've seen 1Ks buried in the 50s on upgrade lists on flights between hubs.  As a United Premier Silver, I get easy upgrades from ORD to places like MSY and LAS, but unless I'm buying the upgrade, I won't ever sniff one to LAX, EWR or SFO.  Complimentary Upgrading is tough these days on any airline.        

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Earning rewards, based on set terms is fine and dandy, but a lot of people lose sight that it's a business, like any other, trying to keep afloat, and maximize profit. I honestly don't fly enough to mess around with MQM/D's, but everyone has their "niche."
Making one customer happy will just piss off another.

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They pissed off everybody with the MQDs last year.  Now it's time to piss off everybody withthe redeemable miles.  

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Well, the underlying tone of the program is to burn excessive miles from hoarders by non reward (no cash), and to give a little to the cash end.

[enharu]

For most people who buy their tickets in advance at the cheapest rates, especially for longer haul flights, they will most likely get lesser miles.

However for travelers whom are buying premium cabin tickets at last minutes notice, they will see a sizable bump in miles they get.

Boardingarea has a nice breakdown on the miles.

[yudeology101]

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

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@visorboy1974 wrote:

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@Burned2manybridgesB4 wrote:

Go read the delta page on facebook, and you're gonna see a "few" unhappy campers...

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I'm sure the ones who fly for the miles rather than the status will be extremely pissed.  They'll be missing out on a ton of miles.  Delta was likely forced into this due to the fact their unused miles on the books is staggeringly high and it counts as a liability for them when they do their quarterly numbers.  Time for them to make it pretty easy to use miles and in the meantime, don't give out as many in return so that unused total can get down to a better level and thus will help return a higher profit.    

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Some of the comments were funny as hell. One woman was complaining since she's GOLD, and couldn't believe there were 15+ others upgraded before her. I forget her name, but apparently the world revolved around her on the tarmac.

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Probably this lady here who got pissed because she didn't get her upgrade lol

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/this-epic-note-passing-war-on-a-delayed-flight-wins-thanksgi

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[USF813]

One way awards are a huge benefit I can take advantage of. The rest is not great but not unexpected either.

[lionsfan20]

Maybe I read it wrong , I watched it on the news this morning and they made it seem that you would have alot more miles to redeem , since it nows goes by price.

[visorboy1974]

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@lionsfan20 wrote:

Maybe I read it wrong , I watched it on the news this morning and they made it seem that you would have alot more miles to redeem , since it nows goes by price.

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If you buy full fare tickets, it could be a ton more miles.  However, if you're on a budget and spend $350 on a fare from NYC-LA, you'll get a lot fewer miles. 

[Brusilov]

Between this and the annual fee for Gold/Platinum cards going up I don't really think the card is worth it for me anymore.  If I were a business or more frequent traveler, perhaps.  A $300 flight to SFO for example would now yield me 2100 miles (5x + 2x for using card), rather than 3178 before.  Getting to board first isn't a huge deal, and half the time you get the option to check carry on at the gate because the overhead bins are so cramped.  I think I'd rather just objectively choose the cheapest available price from here on out.  Delta, you've successfully lost a repeat customer.