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@Open123 wrote:Using history as a guide, it's the only one we've got, because of the potential PR hit, Airlines are reticent to devalue during the honeymoon post merger period. In this case, since US Air miles holders will likely already experience a devaluation on some of their best in class redemptions, I think it'll be extremely unlike for any kind of across the boards devaluation in the first year or two.
Now, after the "honeymoon" period, we can expect some kind of devaulation propogated by the vast amount of points harvested through all the many Citi AA and US Air sign-up offers over the last several years. Knowing this, let's be the amongst the firsts "out of the door" redeem them when their value is at its peak.
Well, so much for that theory. I thought AA miles would be safe through 2014 as well and in the dead of night without warning AA devaled in a major way. Lots of people went for this card with specific plans and now they are coming up short on miles for their redemptions. They also closed some other benefits as well that really made american appealing to me. A really despicable way to do business to say the least.
Can't you still use reduced millage awards?
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/earnMiles/beyondTravel/creditDebit/citi_reduced_mileage.jsp
@john398 wrote:Can't you still use reduced millage awards?
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/earnMiles/beyondTravel/creditDebit/citi_reduced_mileage.jsp
No idea as those are not destinations I am interested in. They made drastic changes to the programs and with the new system it seems like they are able to move award seats around into different categories so it becomes more of a shell game. The sad thing is I am sure they are going to do more to gut the program. Real jerk move to heavily promote their credit cards and the deval without giving those people a chance to redeem. I still don't have the frickin miles in my account yet. Really feels kinda shady how this was all timed and done.
@red259 wrote:
@john398 wrote:Can't you still use reduced millage awards?
https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/earnMiles/beyondTravel/creditDebit/citi_reduced_mileage.jsp
No idea as those are not destinations I am interested in. They made drastic changes to the programs and with the new system it seems like they are able to move award seats around into different categories so it becomes more of a shell game. The sad thing is I am sure they are going to do more to gut the program. Real jerk move to heavily promote their credit cards and the deval without giving those people a chance to redeem. I still don't have the frickin miles in my account yet. Really feels kinda shady how this was all timed and done.
Thanks, I see now a thread on Flyertalk where people are not happy at all
What a joke, they gutted this thing. AAnytime fares??? hahahaha, time to re-think that name! Adios 3 Citi cards.
The loss of international stopovers and explorer awards are the things that hurt the most IMO. The worst part is I don't think they're done yet.
It doesn't make much sense for them to devalue their own metal while leaving their partner award chart untouched. I suspect (like many others) that we'll see a subsequent devaluation for OW partners in the short-medium term future.
I've been resisting it for so long, but it might be time to get the SPG Amex and just dump my domestic non-bonus spending on that. I have quite a few UA and AA miles now, so it might be time to diversify. The number of devaluations we've seen in the past 12 months makes me wary, and I don't see a return to the generous days of the GFC anytime soon. If nothing else it'll keep going in its current direction.
@CreditScholar wrote:The loss of international stopovers and explorer awards are the things that hurt the most IMO. The worst part is I don't think they're done yet.
It doesn't make much sense for them to devalue their own metal while leaving their partner award chart untouched. I suspect (like many others) that we'll see a subsequent devaluation for OW partners in the short-medium term future.
I've been resisting it for so long, but it might be time to get the SPG Amex and just dump my domestic non-bonus spending on that. I have quite a few UA and AA miles now, so it might be time to diversify. The number of devaluations we've seen in the past 12 months makes me wary, and I don't see a return to the generous days of the GFC anytime soon. If nothing else it'll keep going in its current direction.
Yeah im nervous of the OW changes. My whole plan with this has been 2 Business award tkts to SYD on QF metal, but it is quickly turning into a race to the bottom between the big 3 has made me also reconsider holding any airline specific cards any longer.
@B335is wrote:
@CreditScholar wrote:The loss of international stopovers and explorer awards are the things that hurt the most IMO. The worst part is I don't think they're done yet.
It doesn't make much sense for them to devalue their own metal while leaving their partner award chart untouched. I suspect (like many others) that we'll see a subsequent devaluation for OW partners in the short-medium term future.
I've been resisting it for so long, but it might be time to get the SPG Amex and just dump my domestic non-bonus spending on that. I have quite a few UA and AA miles now, so it might be time to diversify. The number of devaluations we've seen in the past 12 months makes me wary, and I don't see a return to the generous days of the GFC anytime soon. If nothing else it'll keep going in its current direction.
Yeah im nervous of the OW changes. My whole plan with this has been 2 Business award tkts to SYD on QF metal, but it is quickly turning into a race to the bottom between the big 3 has made me also reconsider holding any airline specific cards any longer.
Where are you planning to fly from? LAX-SYD?