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@Anonymous wrote:The Diner's Club Masrercards that are no longer issued are PIN default as well. Not many out there though not sure if it's really that big of a deal as most people will never have any issues signing their card when travelling.
Though I usually enjoy them, in this case I want to avoid AF dodging games and speculation over what may or may not return. I'll meet the $2k minimum spend for the bonus, but apart from that I'm just interested in basic functionality if and when my usual cards give me trouble.
I'm generally cynical of the "just put a small recurring charge on it" approach, but this is one case where I may do it.
@Anonymous wrote:The Diner's Club Masrercards that are no longer issued are PIN default as well. Not many out there though not sure if it's really that big of a deal as most people will never have any issues signing their card when travelling.
I think they still have their uses, especially for those who don't want to have to pay with their phones to skip having to sign for stuff overseas.
In the US though? They can be a bit of a hassle (though that's improving more due to merchants deciding to disable PIN on their terminals than anything else.)
@Anonymous wrote:The Diner's Club Masrercards that are no longer issued are PIN default as well. Not many out there though not sure if it's really that big of a deal as most people will never have any issues signing their card when travelling.
For me, the cost of an additional tradeline not to have issues, and more importantly, to not be "that guy" holding up the line in places where a PIN is expected... heck an easy analogy would be people that pay with various bits of shrapnel (change) and having to count it out here in the States even.
Sure, you can, but it's likely going to annoy people behind you at the delay.
I'd rather avoid that, awkward enough being a stranger in a strange land, perhaps moreso for people these days.
I wish I'd picked up a Diners, but I wasn't smart enough to see the use case when I could.