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JoeFontana
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Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?

Hey Themanwhocan, 

 

Thanks! Exactly the type of response I was looking for. 

 

On the BCP, part of the reason I went with it is that the starting bonus pays for 2 years (alternatively, the difference between the starting bonus for it and for BCE makes the first year's annual fee only $25 instead of $75), and that it gives higher credit limits than most cards, which can help me gain other cards. Since I was unable to get the Sallie Mae Mastercard, and my annual spend on groceries is probably roughly $5000, the BCP is a good bet for me at the moment I think. Once I get one Sallie card, I will probably drop it down to BCE right before renewal time, which on $420/month is $250@5%=$12.50+$170@3%=$5.10=about 4.2% overall cash back. 2 Sallies would be optimal, but harder to get I suppose.

 

As for gas, my plan would be to just buy a gas card with my discover/chase card and use it over the year. My gas expense is only about $800/year, even including any non-ordinary trip I might make, so the gas isn't a big problem. If I had two Sallie Mae cards I would just put it on that, but until then this should work fine. 

 

As for the Huntington bank card, unfortunately I don't live in their service area. 

 

I don't have many purchases under $10 (lunch is payroll deduct where I work which would probably be the bulk of my under $5 transactions) so I don't have much use for that 25-cent per transaction card, but it's good to know it exists.

 

I can try for the BoA cards, but how much is an approproiate charge for them? Would $100 a quarter work? 

 

I general, yes, getting multiple cards can really help. With 2 Sallie Mae (3 would be even better in case I had a heavy month) I would have no use for my BCP. With 2 Cash+ cards I can have Restaurants on one card, and Cell Phone with Electronics or Furnitature on the other (since neither Electronics nor Furnitature are regular purchases, I can pick which I'll buy that quarter). I'm also wondering what is that discover card you have?

 

Generally, how do you get two of these cards?

 

Also, I noticed this card from the bank you mentioned: http://www.charterone.com/cards-and-rewards/credit-cards/cashback-platinum.aspx Do you know anything about that? That looks like an insane card.

 

And on the Amex CLI, are you saying I should ask for a CLI in 2 months, so in August, for 3x my credit limit, so to 21K? Or were you saying in 8 months to ask for it? Or what, I'm a bit confused. I don't want my CLs to get too high because I don't want my utilization to get down below 5%, which I hear is worse than something like 10%. Additionally, I don't really care about having more than 5K CL on any card, since I'm paying them off high CLs don't do much for me in themselves. 

 

On the Amazon is books, I believe that's only on certain categories, right? Not everything on Amazon counts as books. 

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Message 11 of 19
JoeFontana
Member

Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?

Hey Themanwhocan,

Thanks! Exactly the type of response I was looking for.

On the BCP, part of the reason I went with it is that the starting bonus pays for 2 years (alternatively, the difference between the starting bonus for it and for BCE makes the first year's annual fee only $25 instead of $75), and that it gives higher credit limits than most cards, which can help me gain other cards. Since I was unable to get the Sallie Mae Mastercard, and my annual spend on groceries is probably roughly $5000, the BCP is a good bet for me at the moment I think. Once I get one Sallie card, I will probably drop it down to BCE right before renewal time, which on $420/month is $250@5%=$12.50+$170@3%=$5.10=about 4.2% overall cash back. 2 Sallies would be optimal, but harder to get I suppose.

As for gas, my plan would be to just buy a gas card with my discover/chase card and use it over the year. My gas expense is only about $800/year, even including any non-ordinary trip I might make, so the gas isn't a big problem. If I had two Sallie Mae cards I would just put it on that, but until then this should work fine.

As for the Huntington bank card, unfortunately I don't live in their service area.

I don't have many purchases under $10 (lunch is payroll deduct where I work which would probably be the bulk of my under $5 transactions) so I don't have much use for that 25-cent per transaction card, but it's good to know it exists.

I can try for the BoA cards, but how much is an approproiate charge for them? Would $100 a quarter work?

I general, yes, getting multiple cards can really help. With 2 Sallie Mae (3 would be even better in case I had a heavy month) I would have no use for my BCP. With 2 Cash+ cards I can have Restaurants on one card, and Cell Phone with Electronics or Furnitature on the other (since neither Electronics nor Furnitature are regular purchases, I can pick which I'll buy that quarter). I'm also wondering what is that discover card you have?

Generally, how do you get two of these cards?

 

And on the Amex CLI, are you saying I should ask for a CLI in 2 months, so in August, for 3x my credit limit, so to 21K? Or were you saying in 8 months to ask for it? Or what, I'm a bit confused. I don't want my CLs to get too high because I don't want my utilization to get down below 5%, which I hear is worse than something like 10%. Additionally, I don't really care about having more than 5K CL on any card, since I'm paying them off high CLs don't do much for me in themselves.

On the Amazon is books, I believe that's only on certain categories, right? Not everything on Amazon counts as books.

Message 12 of 19
Anonymous
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Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?

As one of their customers I know they have what is termed and internal "relationship score". It is used for specials and preferred products. Not sure it would help with the US Bank Cash+ VS. Was told you need a minimum income of $30K (guide) and they like a history in the CBs of a year and they like to see CLs of $5K. Note there are exceptions to this and it was a guideline. So... it may not be cast in stone. The US Bank Cash+ VS is suppose to be an in branch app for their customers. Many exceptions listed on this site. Went in to the bank after 1 1/2 months as a customer and had a US Bank Personal Banker submit my app which took two days and was approved. Food for thought.
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JoeFontana
Member

Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?

I'll be using their checking account exclusively when I get everything set up (probably sometime early in the week after July 4th) but I can't in good conscious keep an average daily balance of 25K in there (an amount someone else told me). That's just a waste of the potential for that money. I usually keep an average daily balance of 5K (which is really about 3.5K most of the time, and much more whenever I'm moving money around and I have to keep it there briefly). But they'll see a big direct deposit, and withdrawls for rent and utilities and paying off cards.

 

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Themanwhocan
Senior Contributor

Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?


@JoeFontana wrote:

Hey Themanwhocan,

Thanks! Exactly the type of response I was looking for.

On the BCP, part of the reason I went with it is that the starting bonus pays for 2 years (alternatively, the difference between the starting bonus for it and for BCE makes the first year's annual fee only $25 instead of $75), and that it gives higher credit limits than most cards, which can help me gain other cards. Since I was unable to get the Sallie Mae Mastercard, and my annual spend on groceries is probably roughly $5000, the BCP is a good bet for me at the moment I think. Once I get one Sallie card, I will probably drop it down to BCE right before renewal time, which on $420/month is $250@5%=$12.50+$170@3%=$5.10=about 4.2% overall cash back. 2 Sallies would be optimal, but harder to get I suppose.

As for gas, my plan would be to just buy a gas card with my discover/chase card and use it over the year. My gas expense is only about $800/year, even including any non-ordinary trip I might make, so the gas isn't a big problem. If I had two Sallie Mae cards I would just put it on that, but until then this should work fine.

As for the Huntington bank card, unfortunately I don't live in their service area.

I don't have many purchases under $10 (lunch is payroll deduct where I work which would probably be the bulk of my under $5 transactions) so I don't have much use for that 25-cent per transaction card, but it's good to know it exists.

I can try for the BoA cards, but how much is an approproiate charge for them? Would $100 a quarter work?

I general, yes, getting multiple cards can really help. With 2 Sallie Mae (3 would be even better in case I had a heavy month) I would have no use for my BCP. With 2 Cash+ cards I can have Restaurants on one card, and Cell Phone with Electronics or Furnitature on the other (since neither Electronics nor Furnitature are regular purchases, I can pick which I'll buy that quarter). I'm also wondering what is that discover card you have?

Generally, how do you get two of these cards?

 

And on the Amex CLI, are you saying I should ask for a CLI in 2 months, so in August, for 3x my credit limit, so to 21K? Or were you saying in 8 months to ask for it? Or what, I'm a bit confused. I don't want my CLs to get too high because I don't want my utilization to get down below 5%, which I hear is worse than something like 10%. Additionally, I don't really care about having more than 5K CL on any card, since I'm paying them off high CLs don't do much for me in themselves.

On the Amazon is books, I believe that's only on certain categories, right? Not everything on Amazon counts as books.


You can get two identical cards by either calling the number on your credit card and asking if the card can be changed to a different card. or you can just apply for the exact same card you already have. 

 

For Barclaycard (they handle the Sallie Mae cards) you can just apply for a card you already have. Make sure you are likely to get an auto approval, since trying to convince a customer service rep to overide the computer to give you a card you already have, would be a tough thing to sell. But word on the Internet is that someone once had 4 identical Barclaycards, so more than 2 is possible. Just spread the applications at least 6 months apart, and show Barclaycard lots of steady spending and paying, at least until you get all the cards you want from them.

 

For US Bank, I asked them to convert my no rewards Platinum card, and thats how I got my second Cash+. You need a $5000+ limit on the card to get a Cash+, plus it has to have been reviewed and approved ahead of time. But its definitely doable.

 

Bank of America Better Balance Rewards you can get via either converting a card, or just by applying for it a second time. Someone here has 3 of those cards, once by each method. My plan is to obtain a BOA Cash Rewards card, mainly for the $100 sign up bonus. Then after 6-8 months or so, I will probably realize I don't use that card as much as I thought I would, and I'll call BOA to see if I can switch it to a Better Balance Rewards card...

 

On the BOA BBR card, $100 a month spend would equal 8.33% cash back every 3 months ($25 / $300). I plan to put a $46 DSL utility bill on mine, which is 18.1%, but at first I will show some good usage. Its the people that ask "wow, can I charge 15 cents a month and get $25 !!!"  that concern me. Yes, yes you can. And yes, credit card companies can close your cards for any reason, as well as for no reason. I would think getting 8.33% cash back on things that you don't have a 5% cash back card to use on, would be a fine idea. Eventually get 2 or 3 cards, and be able to cover $200-$300 or so of utility bills, or maybe Walmart purchases, etc... Great way to fill in the gaps on your credit card 5% coverage. PS: $166.66 average spend per month equals 5% cash back on the BBR card.

 

There is a guide to the American Express CLI requests in the "helpful threads" in the green section at the start of these posts. Basically your very first request can occur at 61+ days, and at 6 month increments after that. they are soft pulls, so there is no reason not to ask. Maximum you can get is 3X your current limit, and the computer will automatically offer a lesser amount if they can't give the full 3X, so just ask for the 3X.

 

Sorry, but there is no such think as a card that gives cash back on books. The credit card company doesn't know what you are buying. They do know you charged a certain amount, and the transaction came from a Book Store. So, you can get cash back from all purchases made at Book Stores, but not specifically books. So, make sure you buy your books from Book Stores, and then it shouldn't be a problem...





TU-8: 804 EX-8: 805 EQ-8: 788 EX-98: 767 EQ-04: 752    
TU-9 Bankcard: 837 EQ-9: 823 EX-9 Bankcard: 837
Total $443,800
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JoeFontana
Member

Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?

A few more questions Themanwhocan,

 

Should I apply now for the BoA card? Or should I wait and apply with the others in January?

Other than what I've said before and asking for the CLI on the Amex, is there anything else I can do that will help my odds of getting those cards in January? 

 

And thank you, you've been a big help to me here. 

Message 16 of 19
Themanwhocan
Senior Contributor

Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?


@JoeFontana wrote:

A few more questions Themanwhocan,

 

Should I apply now for the BoA card? Or should I wait and apply with the others in January?

Other than what I've said before and asking for the CLI on the Amex, is there anything else I can do that will help my odds of getting those cards in January? 

 

And thank you, you've been a big help to me here. 


Its best to wait on any more applications. 6 months of credit card history is absolute bare minimum, and you only have 7 months, and now a bunch of inquiries and a bunch of new cards to temporarily pull down your scores. And scores are not the only thing that matters.

 





TU-8: 804 EX-8: 805 EQ-8: 788 EX-98: 767 EQ-04: 752    
TU-9 Bankcard: 837 EQ-9: 823 EX-9 Bankcard: 837
Total $443,800
Message 17 of 19
Themanwhocan
Senior Contributor

Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?

Oh, and and as long as you have 6 months to kill, you should read this old post:  http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/How-do-I-play-the-1-9-Utilization-Game-Please-Help/m-p/...

 





TU-8: 804 EX-8: 805 EQ-8: 788 EX-98: 767 EQ-04: 752    
TU-9 Bankcard: 837 EQ-9: 823 EX-9 Bankcard: 837
Total $443,800
Message 18 of 19
JoeFontana
Member

Re: How is my lineup? How can I make it happen?

Last question on strategy, does this sound like the correct strategy to be applying?

 

In January, apply for:

 

Barclaycard Arrival, wait for decision. If I don't get it, apply for Sallie Mae Mastercard. (or should I apply simultaneously)

Apply for US Bank Cash+ (if they don't give it to me, I expect they'll offer me something different, if they do I'll ask for the Visa Platinum card (or should I ask for a different one) and charge $300ish a month on it. If they give me the Cash+ then jsut use it normally.

Then apply for Dividend after hearing back from US Bank. If I get it cool, if not, try again in July.

Then apply for BoA Better Balance Rewards. If I get it cool, if not try again in July.

 

In July:

 

If I got the Barclaycard Arrival apply for a Sallie Mae Mastercard. If I got a Sallie Mae Mastercard apply for Arrival. If I got neither apply for Sallie Mae Mastercard (means it's really hard to get a card from there, I need to start easy)

Then, if I got the US Bank Cash+ card, apply for the Visa Platinum Card (or a different one if another is better). If I got the Visa Platinum card, apply for the Cash+ card. If I got no card then apply for the Cash+ card, and take a different card if I can. Tell them I'm also interested in the Club Carlson Premier Rewards card, and I'd like that if they'll give it to me. Try and get that one from them.

Apply for Dividend if I don't have it. If I get it, cool. If not, try again in January.

Apply for BoA Better Balance Rewards if I didn't get it last time. If I got it last time, apply for whatever has the best starting bonus then.

 

In January 2016:

 

If I don't have Arrival, apply for that. If I have Arrival but not Sallie Mae apply for that. If I have both apply for ChoicePrivileges.

Then, if I don't have Cash+ apply for that. If I have Cash+ and some garbage card I don't want apply for Club Carlson (bide my time, might be easier to PC with a longer history with them). 

Apply for Dividend if I don't have it.

Either PC to Better Balance or whatever I'm looking at at the moment.

 

Obviously this planning is pretty far out and circumstances will change (new card comes out that it more useful or one of those gets discontinued or something) but as a preliminary does this sound right. On the points where I'm not sure (what card should I want if I don't get Cash+ for PCing to Cash+ later), what is the best option?

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