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It's not really wise or unwise in and of itself.
@black_citi wrote:
She says its not a good idea because if you miss a payment
Missing a payment regardless of bank or creditor is not wise. I'm not sure that selecting a creditor with not paying the creditor in mind as a concern can be labeled as wise. There are certainly other factors at play for many.
@black_citi wrote:
I personally prefer bank CC over companies like discover, amex or capital one mainly because if I have a question I can just go to a branch.
I personally find considering individual products to be more useful than the creditor. I've never needed a branch to address my concerns with a credit card. That said, you have to act on your own priorities and preferences.
One major difference is that the credit card issuing part MIGHT now have more information about you than they would if you banked elsewhere. ("Might" because some institutions may not sure info in this way between banking and credit cards). Whether that is a good thing or not depends partly on your checking relationship, if your checking account is showing signs of distrress, your credit card could at least be flagged for review. If you have a lot of money in the banking part, maybe getting a card is easier (usually has to be a significant amount of money to make much of a difference).
I think your mother might be right in that some credit card agreements do allow the issuer to make up shortfalls from other accounts you may have with them. But as takeshi suggests, probably shouldn't use "what happens if I don't pay" as a major decision point.
My own view is to try to get the "best" offer from wherever (for your own definition of best) so this leads to checking, savings, money market, credit cards, mortgage etc all at separate places. IMO, "relationship" banking is overrated, but then I have never had upper tier private banking so maybe I am missing stuff!
I bank with PNC, I have Points Visa that I really only use for ODP to my Checking.
I think it is good to have a deeper "relationship" with your Bank outside of standard Checking/Savings. I plan to refi through PNC, they have some nice rates.
Because I have a Checking/Savings/CC and Direct Deposit relationship with PNC, I have their Highest Tier Virutal Wallet, 3 accounts-in-One, Basic Checking (Spend), Savings/Checking Hybrid (Reserve) and Long Term-Savings (Growth); for Free, plus it also alows me Unlimited Out Of Network ATM reimbursements.
So there are Perks to having a "deeper" relationship with your Bank.
@black_citi wrote:
She says its not a good idea because if you miss a payment they can just go into your checking or savings and take money out without your authorization. Or even if you're on time, she thinks if you carry a balance month to month for too long they can reach in a take your money. Non bank cc companies don't do that she says. I don't know lol.
They do have the right to invoke the Set-off clause/rule/whatever( you want to refer to it as. That is where the bank can seize money that you owe them if it's in a deposit account with them. This can't be used for credit cards, so she has nothing to worry about and they wouldn't do it just because you miss one payment. You should educate her how credit cards work. American Express and Discover both have a banking unit, so she is still with a bank.
@navigatethis12 wrote:
@black_citi wrote:
She says its not a good idea because if you miss a payment they can just go into your checking or savings and take money out without your authorization. Or even if you're on time, she thinks if you carry a balance month to month for too long they can reach in a take your money. Non bank cc companies don't do that she says. I don't know lol.They do have the right to invoke the Set-off clause/rule/whatever( you want to refer to it as. That is where the bank can seize money that you owe them if it's in a deposit account with them. This can't be used for credit cards, so she has nothing to worry about and they wouldn't do it just because you miss one payment. You should educate her how credit cards work. American Express and Discover both have a banking unit, so she is still with a bank.
Oh she is quite good at managing her credit. She has never been late or had to file bk. Her credit scores are probably very close to if not over 800. She's 61 now. My father on the other hand is a different story. He is TERRIBLE with money and CC'S. He's 62.
I don't have a problem with why she chooses not to have CC's with banks but she doesn't like the fact I do. It's not something we talk about all the time but sometimes either she or I may bring it up and we may have a small discussion. I was just wondering what others thought about it.
@navigatethis12 wrote:
@black_citi wrote:
She says its not a good idea because if you miss a payment they can just go into your checking or savings and take money out without your authorization. Or even if you're on time, she thinks if you carry a balance month to month for too long they can reach in a take your money. Non bank cc companies don't do that she says. I don't know lol.They do have the right to invoke the Set-off clause/rule/whatever( you want to refer to it as. That is where the bank can seize money that you owe them if it's in a deposit account with them. This can't be used for credit cards, so she has nothing to worry about and they wouldn't do it just because you miss one payment. You should educate her how credit cards work. American Express and Discover both have a banking unit, so she is still with a bank.
What if the CC gets charged off? Can the bank then dip into your deposit account to pay off the CO?
Also like longtimelurker stated, the bank will have more internal information about your banking that may be considered for things like CLIs.
I would not have a cc with my bank. I have seen too many chase accounts get killed due to the banking side.
@money_talks wrote:
@navigatethis12 wrote:
@black_citi wrote:
She says its not a good idea because if you miss a payment they can just go into your checking or savings and take money out without your authorization. Or even if you're on time, she thinks if you carry a balance month to month for too long they can reach in a take your money. Non bank cc companies don't do that she says. I don't know lol.They do have the right to invoke the Set-off clause/rule/whatever( you want to refer to it as. That is where the bank can seize money that you owe them if it's in a deposit account with them. This can't be used for credit cards, so she has nothing to worry about and they wouldn't do it just because you miss one payment. You should educate her how credit cards work. American Express and Discover both have a banking unit, so she is still with a bank.
What if the CC gets charged off? Can the bank then dip into your deposit account to pay off the CO?
Also like longtimelurker stated, the bank will have more internal information about your banking that may be considered for things like CLIs.
That's what happened to me back in 2010 with Chase.
The CC I had had a 5000 limit on it. I owed $6000. I lost my job and couldn't pay the minimums. They put a judgement against me in May 2010. I didn't have a job so it wasn't much they could do after that.
I eventually got a job working PT for fedex in June of that same year. I never told Chase about it.
In September, they froze my checking. I had DD with fedex so the money would go in, but I couldn't take it out. It took 40 days for me to get my account unfrozen. I agreed to pay $130 a month for 5 years. Interestingly there were no interest charges. That $130 went directly to principal.
In December 2012 I owed $1700. I settled the account for $1000 (they made some "adjustments" to the account plus I gave $1000 one month which is why it got so low so quick)
I learned my lesson. It is 100% my fault. I don't blame Chase. I shouldn't have took the card. I was 23 when I got it, 25 when they did the judgement, 28 when I finally settled.