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@drkaje wrote:I can barely keep track of 7 cards, LOL!
+1 I know, I can hardly keep track of my 6 cc
I guess I don't understand why you keep trying to open accounts. You already have enough stuff that 10 years from now your AAoA is going to be unassailable.
Just stop, and pay off all the money you owe.
@drsmith wrote:I guess I don't understand why you keep trying to open accounts. You already have enough stuff that 10 years from now your AAoA is going to be unassailable.
Just stop, and pay off all the money you owe.
I went on my APP Spree in Dec. and Jan. because I basically had a couple store accounts and 1 MC that I wasn't joint or Auth on. As I get the new ones and as the debt comes down I will continue to close joint accounts. Chase and USBank are already closed but USBank said they would report the account open until it was $0 balance and they report limit even though it's Sig.
I hope you won't mind, Creditaddict, but I took a liberty in making a few changes to your data for my response.
First, let me say that it is a bit shocking, at first glance, but when I really started to analyze your debt, it's not nearly as bad as "first glance" might indicate. I think that the {{shock}} really comes from the number of accounts. The actual dollar amount (considering what all you included), while high for unsecured credit card debt, is really more of a molehill, and not so much of a mountain, in the greater scheme of things. Here's some examples of what I mean:
Company | Date Opened | Credit Line | Balance | Utilization | Interest Rate |
GECRB/PayPal MC - My Daily Card - PIF | 11/1/2011 | $2,000.00 | $857.08 | 43% | 23.99% |
Bloomingdales Store - Joint - PIF this month | 4/1/2000 | $6,800.00 | $234.00 | 3% | 24.50% |
Macy's Amex - Joint - Was $12k CL then payment plan, then $0 and closed and then they re-opened at $500 and CLI to $2k at 6 months, will probalby pay off in next 3 months or so because it's up for CLI then. | 4/1/2008 | $2,000 | $1,950.00 | 98% | 24.50% |
GECRB/Lowes | 12/1/2011 | $500.00 | $271.33 | 54% | 24.99% |
GEMB/Walmart | 11/1/2011 | $800.00 | $140.36 | 18% | 22.90% |
Dillards Amex - Joint - CLD 2 months ago from $3500 - dont use | 1/1/2008 | $2,350.00 | $2,291.76 | 98% | 21.99% |
CareCredit - Friends Account - I pay $100/m but it's not on my CR - to be PIF before 0% is up - he opened for me when my tiny dog bill went to $2600 about 8 months ago for hospital stay. she is good now! | 6/1/2011 | $5,000.00 | $1,100.00 | 22% | 0.00% |
Barclay Apple - 0% currently | 11/1/2011 | $1,300.00 | $1,118.42 | 86% | 22.9% in July |
Von Maur - No fees or interest ever, it auto bills minimum which is 20% of bal. not in util. | 4/1/2010 | Charge | $321.00 | N/A | 0.00% |
Chase - Joint Closed - Paying $300/m - it's a Signature Card and High Bal is $15,900. so actually that util is wrong. | 5/1/2005 | $13,900.00 | $12,603.76 | 91% | 11.90% |
USBank - Joint Closed - Locked in at 4.9% for 48/m at $424/m - 45 to go | 11/1/2005 | $22,500.00 | $17,380.53 | 77% | 4.90% |
Toyota Visa - Joint - I don't pay | 1/1/2010 | $1,300.00 | $1,160.94 | 15.99% | |
GECRB/Chevron | 1/1/2012 | $650.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 26.99% |
Macy's Store - 6 showing!! - **info below** | 4/1/2008 | $10,700.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 24.50% |
HSBC/Best Buy Gold MC | 7/1/2010 | $305.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 23.99% |
Target - $300-$800/m and PIF multiple times a month... Recent surprise CLI by $500. | 8/1/2008 | $1,500.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 22.90% |
Target | 6/1/1999 | $300.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 22.90% |
Target | 3/1/2009 | $300.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 22.90% |
Target | 8/1/2009 | $200.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 22.90% |
Capital One | 12/1/2011 | $300.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 17.99% |
Macy's Furniture Line | 1/1/2010 | $5,800.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
Macy's Furniture Line | 8/1/2008 | $3,600.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
HSBC/Best Buy Store - Auth. | 1/1/2003 | $2,900.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
HSBC/Saks - Joint | 11/1/2007 | $2,500.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
Credit First - Firestone | 4/1/2008 | $1,500.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
WFCB/Venue | 2/1/2009 | $1,500 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
Kay Jewelers | 4/1/2010 | $1,000.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
GE/American Eagle - Auth. | 1/1/2002 | $900 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
GE/Abercrombie - Auth. | 2/1/2000 | $750.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
GECRB/Gap - Auth. - As you can see CLD to $124 for non use. | 1/1/2002 | $124.00 | $0.00 | 0% | 0.00% |
Totals | $93,279.00 | $36,388.10 | 39% |
Honestly, it's not disaster. This is totally doable! Without knowing how much $$$ you have to contribute to the payoff of this debt, each month, I can't be very specific. But, I think if you get rid of those high(est) interest, but low(ish) balances first, you'll have a lot more cash to work with over the longterm. For example, the Macy's joint Amex is a killer. I'd make it a priority to pay that off ASAP. With that debt gone, entirely, that would free up quite a bit of cash to quickly take care of Walmart and Lowes.
I'm glad that you use a single daily card. A best practice might be to Keep that one in your wallet, one card (not in your wallet, but at your disposal) for monthly recurring (bill) charges, and put the others on ice (or in the SD, or whatever it is that you do with the cards that you're not using, LOL!). Keep *only* that one card, and a bank debit card, and perhaps a very small amount of cash in your wallet for emergencies. Period! Nothing else, for now. Go on a no-frills, financial diet, with little rewards/incentives, along the way, to keep you motivated.
I think that within 9 to 12 months, you're very likely to have the top 7 (not counting your daily card, the Toyota, or the Bloomies which you indicated will be paid off this month) debts paid off. With that, you'll only have balances on two accounts, for a total of less than $25k (assuming you snowball). Then, I'd think that a consolidation loan from a credit union would be doable. And, if you can consolidate, and continue to snowball, you'll be out of debt in 3 to 5 years. And, considering the age of a lot of your accounts, you'll come out of the other end like a rose!
You and I are alike.....lol
@LilloEsquilo wrote:Wow. I don't know whether to be impressed you got all that credit, or to cringe at looking at the balances on it. I think if I had that burden over my neck, I couldn't sleep at night, I can't stand letting a 20 dollar balance go 3 days without paying it.
Thanks for sharing that, that takes courage.
Anyone who thinks that's a lot of debt obviously didn't get stalled halfway through school and relegated to a dead-end job.
I don't understand CA's constant seeking of credit or splurging on a pet related expense, but there may be other reasons for the need not revealed. Just looking at the numbers; it really seems more like a spending issue than the debt itself. It's probably doable in 5 years if spending is cut way down.
@Smug wrote:You and I are alike.....lol
@LilloEsquilo wrote:Wow. I don't know whether to be impressed you got all that credit, or to cringe at looking at the balances on it. I think if I had that burden over my neck, I couldn't sleep at night, I can't stand letting a 20 dollar balance go 3 days without paying it.
Thanks for sharing that, that takes courage.
lol I'm a basket case I tell ya. I can't help it, I'm trying. I paid my 28 dollar Amazon card balance yesterday trying to pay it before the reporting date (it didn't show as a balance before then or I'd have paid it sooner) and now I'm afraid it's too close to the reporting date and that card will show a balance and that this will impact my score. I have to remember NOT to ever use it right before the reporting date.
Sometimes I think these things are more hassle than they are worth. Maybe for online purchases from retailers I trust, I should use my debit card. This is kinda tongue in cheek, but I could just picture having that card showing a 28 dollar balance on it raising HUGE red flags that I'm going to max all my cards out and declare BK to the paranoid CCCs AND drop my score 50 points. The only balance I haven't paid already is on the Associated Visa, it's about 120 dollars, most of which is only because I paid for my tax software and filed taxes yesterday (yep, we have to pay to pay our taxes AND get charged sales tax on paying, what a ripoff!) and the charges haven't posted yet so I can pay them, and that bothers me. I gotta be nuts, it shouldn't bother me but it does. I'd pay it right this minute if I could. I can't until the charges come through.
Is that crazy or what? And I know the CCCs don't like you doing that but they don't like it if you carry the wrong balance or the moon is in the wrong cycle too so there is little pleasing those guys! I should go to work for them I'd probably fit right in!
@drkaje wrote:Anyone who thinks that's a lot of debt obviously didn't get stalled halfway through school and relegated to a dead-end job.
I don't understand CA's constant seeking of credit or splurging on a pet related expense, but there may be other reasons for the need not revealed. Just looking at the numbers; it really seems more like a spending issue than the debt itself. It's probably doable in 5 years if spending is cut way down.
Ramen noodles and peanut butter and bread, thermostat set to 90 in the summer and 60 in the winter, use newspapers for toilet paper (it's better than what I've seen at some places I worked....), that sort of thing
CA- it took real "guts" to show all of us your dirty laundry so to speak.
I admire you for doing this.
There is some excellent advise in this thread. Just do your best and pay what you can when you can and eventully it will all work out for you.
I have been in this same position three times im my life. It is scarey but the beast can me tamed!
I wish you the best of luck!
@LilloEsquilo wrote:
@drkaje wrote:Anyone who thinks that's a lot of debt obviously didn't get stalled halfway through school and relegated to a dead-end job.
I don't understand CA's constant seeking of credit or splurging on a pet related expense, but there may be other reasons for the need not revealed. Just looking at the numbers; it really seems more like a spending issue than the debt itself. It's probably doable in 5 years if spending is cut way down.
Ramen noodles and peanut butter and bread, thermostat set to 90 in the summer and 60 in the winter, use newspapers for toilet paper (it's better than what I've seen at some places I worked....), that sort of thing
I guess it all comes down to what you're earning vs spending.
It took a lot of growing up for me to understand having available credit doesn't make things affordable.