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Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752

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islandgirl759
Valued Member

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752

Hi Improvingmycredit,

 

When is that new mastercard supposed to come out? The nearest Sam's Club to me is over an hour away unfortunately, plus I don't ever shop in bulk, 50% of the time it's just me, so is it still worth it to get a $45 membership just to be able to get this card over the AMEX BCP? Will there be a sign on bonus with this card? I spend more money on food than I do on gas, ($450+ in food vs $200 in gas a month) so I'm weighing the total benefits of each card. Amex 6% cash back on supermarkets/groceries, $150 cash reward for sign up, you can technically buy gift cards at the grocery store to a lot of other stores, including restaurants and amazon and still get the 6% cash back. I'm not sure the Sam's Club card would be better for me.

 

I think it's still between the AMEX BCP and the Sallie Mae. Sallie Mae 5% back on gas is great. Maybe it's good to get both cards eventually? Get one now and get the other in 6 months to a year? 

 

I'm also interested in learning how the backdating works with AMEX and how it would benefit me. I have very short credit history at 33 years old, because I'm from the Caribbean and didn't start having a credit file until I was 22 or so. My longest TL is only 7 years, and I only have that and my car loan. So if I get AMEX now, anything new in the future can be backdated right? I'm not really clear on this.

Transunion - 786 (Discover it) 8/21/2015
Equifax - 760 (Quizzle) 8/25/2015
CreditKarma - 757 (TU) & 760 (EQ) - 8/23/15
Fico 8 Equifax - 772 (Citi CC)
Fico 8 Experian - 773 (Amex CC)
Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $9500 CL, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $7800 CL, Citi Simplicity - $9500 CL, AMEX BCE - $7000 CL


Things have changed a bit Smiley Happy

Transunion - 771 (Discover it + Myfico score) 7/21/2014
- 749 (Discover it) 8/21/2014 - lost 22 points after app spree
Experian - 724 (from them directly) 8/10/2014 (AMEX said it was 735?)
Equifax - 748 (Quizzle) 7/28/2014
- 736 (Quizzle) 8/28/2014 - lost 12 points after app spree
CreditKarma - 759 - 8/9/14 (went up from 738 +24 pts 7/31/2014)

Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $6500, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $3500, Citi Simplicity - $5000, AMEX BCE - $2000
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mongstradamus
Super Contributor

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752


@islandgirl759 wrote:

Hi Improvingmycredit,

 

When is that new mastercard supposed to come out? The nearest Sam's Club to me is over an hour away unfortunately, plus I don't ever shop in bulk, 50% of the time it's just me, so is it still worth it to get a $45 membership just to be able to get this card over the AMEX BCP? Will there be a sign on bonus with this card? I spend more money on food than I do on gas, ($450+ in food vs $200 in gas a month) so I'm weighing the total benefits of each card. Amex 6% cash back on supermarkets/groceries, $150 cash reward for sign up, you can technically buy gift cards at the grocery store to a lot of other stores, including restaurants and amazon and still get the 6% cash back. I'm not sure the Sam's Club card would be better for me.

 

I think it's still between the AMEX BCP and the Sallie Mae. Sallie Mae 5% back on gas is great. Maybe it's good to get both cards eventually? Get one now and get the other in 6 months to a year? 

 

I'm also interested in learning how the backdating works with AMEX and how it would benefit me. I have very short credit history at 33 years old, because I'm from the Caribbean and didn't start having a credit file until I was 22 or so. My longest TL is only 7 years, and I only have that and my car loan. So if I get AMEX now, anything new in the future can be backdated right? I'm not really clear on this.


Just so you know in most instances 2x SM is better than BCP , there is an spreadhsheet somehwere in these forums that show the breakpoints. 



EX Fico 804 11/16/16 Fako 800 Credit.com 11/16/16
EQ SW bank enhanced 11/16/16 839 CK fako 822 11/16/16
TU Fico discover 10/19/16 814 Fako 819 Creditkarma 11/16/16
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islandgirl759
Valued Member

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752

Does that mean getting 2 identical Sallie Mae cards vs. one SM and one Amex?

Transunion - 786 (Discover it) 8/21/2015
Equifax - 760 (Quizzle) 8/25/2015
CreditKarma - 757 (TU) & 760 (EQ) - 8/23/15
Fico 8 Equifax - 772 (Citi CC)
Fico 8 Experian - 773 (Amex CC)
Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $9500 CL, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $7800 CL, Citi Simplicity - $9500 CL, AMEX BCE - $7000 CL


Things have changed a bit Smiley Happy

Transunion - 771 (Discover it + Myfico score) 7/21/2014
- 749 (Discover it) 8/21/2014 - lost 22 points after app spree
Experian - 724 (from them directly) 8/10/2014 (AMEX said it was 735?)
Equifax - 748 (Quizzle) 7/28/2014
- 736 (Quizzle) 8/28/2014 - lost 12 points after app spree
CreditKarma - 759 - 8/9/14 (went up from 738 +24 pts 7/31/2014)

Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $6500, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $3500, Citi Simplicity - $5000, AMEX BCE - $2000
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mongstradamus
Super Contributor

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752


@islandgirl759 wrote:

Does that mean getting 2 identical Sallie Mae cards vs. one SM and one Amex?


2x SM vs 1 BCP. In most cases the 2x SM beats out the 1 BCP 



EX Fico 804 11/16/16 Fako 800 Credit.com 11/16/16
EQ SW bank enhanced 11/16/16 839 CK fako 822 11/16/16
TU Fico discover 10/19/16 814 Fako 819 Creditkarma 11/16/16
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improvingmycredit
Valued Contributor

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752


@islandgirl759 wrote:

Hi Improvingmycredit,

 

When is that new mastercard supposed to come out? The nearest Sam's Club to me is over an hour away unfortunately, plus I don't ever shop in bulk, 50% of the time it's just me, so is it still worth it to get a $45 membership just to be able to get this card over the AMEX BCP? Will there be a sign on bonus with this card? I spend more money on food than I do on gas, ($450+ in food vs $200 in gas a month) so I'm weighing the total benefits of each card. Amex 6% cash back on supermarkets/groceries, $150 cash reward for sign up, you can technically buy gift cards at the grocery store to a lot of other stores, including restaurants and amazon and still get the 6% cash back. I'm not sure the Sam's Club card would be better for me.

 

I think it's still between the AMEX BCP and the Sallie Mae. Sallie Mae 5% back on gas is great. Maybe it's good to get both cards eventually? Get one now and get the other in 6 months to a year? 

 

I'm also interested in learning how the backdating works with AMEX and how it would benefit me. I have very short credit history at 33 years old, because I'm from the Caribbean and didn't start having a credit file until I was 22 or so. My longest TL is only 7 years, and I only have that and my car loan. So if I get AMEX now, anything new in the future can be backdated right? I'm not really clear on this.


Hey islandgirl759!

Being that there is no Sam's Club near you.. probably not a viable choice for you.  Smiley Happy  It would be a waste of an AF to Sam's Club to not be able to use the facility.   Still a great rewards card though.  You might want to look at BCP and SM together as an option.  I don't spend a lot in groceries but I do eat out a lot along with gas expenditures.. this card (BCP) works very well for me because of the gift card for restaurants at the grocery store option at 6% rewards. What's really cool is here in East TN, Kroger offers extra points for gas purchases at Shell so I get to triple dip.  Discounts off gas for my gift card purchases and 6% rewards to my BCP for groceries and 3% back for gas purchases. 

With regards to backdating... how it works.. Once a card member with Amex, always a card member with Amex.  So once your membership date starts, any subsequent new CLs with Amex will be backdated to the year you opened your first card.  This is a great benefit for AAoA in the future if they have a product that better suits you as your lifestyle changes or your spending habits change. 

 


Starting Score: 642
Current Score: EQ 773, EX 780, TU 777 (All FICO)
Goal Score: 800+

Cards: NFCU Flagship 50K, DC 30K, BCP 28.6K, Arrival+ 25K, Citi DP 22.8K, CSR 20.5K, TotalRewards 25K, QuickSilver 20K

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islandgirl759
Valued Member

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752

Thanks for all the advice everyone. I ended up applying for the Discover It card, and got approved with a $3500 limit right away. Then I just recently applied for the Citi Simplicity card and initially got approved for $500, but I requested a CLI once the card came in the mail and got them to increase it to $5000! Between these two cards and a CLI on my BofA rewards card to $6500 I have enough available credit to upgrade my photography gear for my business, and still keep my CC utilization low. Discover has 0% for 14 months and Citi has 0% for 18 months, so I plan to split the upgrade over these 2 cards and pay it off before the 0% runs out. I will probably spend around $4000 out of the $15000, which will make my utilization around 27% is that correct?  

Transunion - 786 (Discover it) 8/21/2015
Equifax - 760 (Quizzle) 8/25/2015
CreditKarma - 757 (TU) & 760 (EQ) - 8/23/15
Fico 8 Equifax - 772 (Citi CC)
Fico 8 Experian - 773 (Amex CC)
Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $9500 CL, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $7800 CL, Citi Simplicity - $9500 CL, AMEX BCE - $7000 CL


Things have changed a bit Smiley Happy

Transunion - 771 (Discover it + Myfico score) 7/21/2014
- 749 (Discover it) 8/21/2014 - lost 22 points after app spree
Experian - 724 (from them directly) 8/10/2014 (AMEX said it was 735?)
Equifax - 748 (Quizzle) 7/28/2014
- 736 (Quizzle) 8/28/2014 - lost 12 points after app spree
CreditKarma - 759 - 8/9/14 (went up from 738 +24 pts 7/31/2014)

Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $6500, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $3500, Citi Simplicity - $5000, AMEX BCE - $2000
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752

I have the BCP and am a fan of the CB I have been receiving with it. I tend to use my PNC or Cap1 QS for daily spend (1.5%) since I don't want to take out another card right now, and then use BCP for the categories you mentioned. I went with BCP over BCE because when I went to the Amex website to check if I had any offers they increased the sign-up bonus from $150 to $250 - made the $75 AF seem much better. Maybe give that a go if you are thinking of getting an Amex. 

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islandgirl759
Valued Member

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752

I went with Discover It and Citi Simplicity Cards instead. I get good rewards from BofA and Discover now, so I'm done applying for cards for right now. I have more than enough inquiries between these new ones and buying a new car last month Smiley LOL

Transunion - 786 (Discover it) 8/21/2015
Equifax - 760 (Quizzle) 8/25/2015
CreditKarma - 757 (TU) & 760 (EQ) - 8/23/15
Fico 8 Equifax - 772 (Citi CC)
Fico 8 Experian - 773 (Amex CC)
Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $9500 CL, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $7800 CL, Citi Simplicity - $9500 CL, AMEX BCE - $7000 CL


Things have changed a bit Smiley Happy

Transunion - 771 (Discover it + Myfico score) 7/21/2014
- 749 (Discover it) 8/21/2014 - lost 22 points after app spree
Experian - 724 (from them directly) 8/10/2014 (AMEX said it was 735?)
Equifax - 748 (Quizzle) 7/28/2014
- 736 (Quizzle) 8/28/2014 - lost 12 points after app spree
CreditKarma - 759 - 8/9/14 (went up from 738 +24 pts 7/31/2014)

Bank Of America Cash Back Rewards- $6500, Discover It Cash Back Rewards - $3500, Citi Simplicity - $5000, AMEX BCE - $2000
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jamesdwi
Valued Contributor

Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752


@islandgirl759 wrote:

I went with Discover It and Citi Simplicity Cards instead. I get good rewards from BofA and Discover now, so I'm done applying for cards for right now. I have more than enough inquiries between these new ones and buying a new car last month Smiley LOL


congrats on the new cards, if you wanted to wait 3 months, and if you think you may ever want another AMEX card, I would apply for the AMEX prg (first year APR is $0) and set your membership date before the end of the year. You most likely would of gotten the AMEX revolver of your choice because with a nearly clean report and a 751 and a card that is 7 years old, approval is almost guaranteed. I got my amex revolver with a 720 EX score and my AAoA was just over 1 year. 

 

 

Cards: Chase Southwest 20k & CSR 17k & CSP 10k & FNBO 30k Oregon Duck 5k, & AMEX BCP 32.5k & Amex Magnet 15k&amg; Hilton Surpass 7.5k & Delta Gold 12k & Zync NPSL, Fidelity AMEX 17k Commerce5.9k & Cash Forward 7.5k & Sams Club MC 20k, Paypal Extras MC 10k, Paypal Credit 7.25k CapOne Venture 15k, QS 2.5k, QS 750, Amazon 10k, Walmart 10k, Citi Simplicity 18k, Discover IT 23k and a nice stack of store cards.
Landmarkcu Personal Loan 10k
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Anonymous
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Re: Need advice on which second credit card to apply for - FICO 752

Congrats on the new cards!

 

I actually hadn't seen this thread until now, but I was going to remark that my first credit card was also a BofA Student card for $700, upgraded to $3,000 (at my request), and then recently converted to a Cash Rewards. I ended up actually going the route you initially proposed, with the AmEx BCP and the Chase Freedom. To each his/her own, though! Enjoy!

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