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I agree! Also, for those that use the benefits such as conceirge, you really need only Visa Signature, and I would think that many of those with Penfed cards already have one from another issuer. So, the sig benefit isn't that useful, whereas a 2% drop in gas discount would more or less ruin the card.
I hope they're not going to change 5% cash back on Penfed Cash Rewards Visa.
Ron.
@Ron1 wrote:I hope they're not going to change 5% cash back on Penfed Cash Rewards Visa.
Ron.
If they want the Sig to be a success, I don't see how they can avoid downgrading Cash Rewards and Platinum Rewards. Gas is still really the major category for these cards and "We have a card with 5% off, or a VISA SIGNATURE (gasp) card with 3% off" would have to have the Sig benefits marketed very well for people to want the lesser %.
@longtimelurker wrote:
@Ron1 wrote:I hope they're not going to change 5% cash back on Penfed Cash Rewards Visa.
Ron.
If they want the Sig to be a success, I don't see how they can avoid downgrading Cash Rewards and Platinum Rewards. Gas is still really the major category for these cards and "We have a card with 5% off, or a VISA SIGNATURE (gasp) card with 3% off" would have to have the Sig benefits marketed very well for people to want the lesser %.
Yes, they can downgrade 5% cash back to 3% on gas purchase. They might come out Visa Signature on that card. 3% cash back on gas is pretty much standard for other rewards cards like Amex BCP, BofA 3-2-1.
Ron.
It's entirely possible that it's an "either/or" thing. In other words, take the Signature card that has lots of other perks but not so much for cash back (i.e., 3/2/1 after 10/31/13) or choose the lesser card with more benefits (5/3/1). Signature Visas probably cost the lender a bit more since those extra perks aren't exactly free. This might be also the reason why a card member is allowed to opt-out of the new product...why opt-out if there were no downsides?
But my feeling is that the 5/3/1 benefit is dead-man-walking benefit. It may only be with us for the next six months. If it is going to survive though, I'll stick with the non-Sig version over the Sig version. I don't need the Sig benefits that badly (Amex Platinum's benefits meet or exceed Visa Sig...and my US Bank Cash + gives me Sig benefits too).
Yes it looks like they are gonna try to go to the 3/2/1 rewards..I have not reciceved any thing from Penfed yet..Im hoping the platnium stays at 5/3/1...I also noticed no sign up bonus..Like when I got mine a year ago $250.00 for $1000.00 spend in 3 months
Interesting, my invite doesn't mention a future drop to 3% for gas. It does explicitly state "You will continue to enjoy 5 points on gas purchases, 3 points on supermarket purchases, and 1 point on all other purchases"
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Obviously, I really hope the legacy 5/3/1 Platinum Rewards cardholders are grandfathered at the old point accrual rates.
@jdogi wrote:Interesting, my invite doesn't mention a future drop to 3% for gas. It does explicitly state "You will continue to enjoy 5 points on gas purchases, 3 points on supermarket purchases, and 1 point on all other purchases"
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Obviously, I really hope the legacy 5/3/1 Platinum Rewards cardholders are grandfathered at the old point accrual rates.
In a post on the forum-that-must-not-be-named, someone called Penfed about this, and was told that while there is nothing in writing about the regular card, they (the Penfed reps) guess that people are moved to sig, and those that don't either eventually have the same point structure imposed, or the card goes away and they move to a different card. But again, just a report on what some reps thought would happen!
But, time to check out the Fort Knox card, which is still giving 5% (and 1% on other things)