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Trigga
Regular Contributor

Re: Primecards


@Cdnewmanpac wrote:

@Trigga wrote:

Yes i realize it varies stupid question i suppose Smiley Embarassed

 

 

But anyway i have a 30 day late 2years ago and also have 1 CO that i sent a PFD for didnt hear anything back yet .

 

Also my AAoA is almost 1 year oldest CC is 3yrs 8 months old


Assuming someone has a few subprime cards, is doing everything right after a period of badness and has a gradually rising score, it might go like this:

<650, wasting time and inquiries

650-680, instant approval rare, but maybe via recon with a good story

680-700, decent chance with "relationship" prime cards like usaa, nfcu, local cu

700-720, chances are pretty good, chance of recon excellent with the right card

>720, rejection rare, assuming decent income/dti

>760, rejection rare enough to be newsworthy on this forum


Thank you for the post ! I understand what is in the credit report matters as much as the score itself , i was just curious and thanks again .

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Message 11 of 17
JusdoNit
Established Contributor

Re: Primecards


@Cdnewmanpac wrote:

@Trigga wrote:

Yes i realize it varies stupid question i suppose Smiley Embarassed

 

 

But anyway i have a 30 day late 2years ago and also have 1 CO that i sent a PFD for didnt hear anything back yet .

 

Also my AAoA is almost 1 year oldest CC is 3yrs 8 months old


Assuming someone has a few subprime cards, is doing everything right after a period of badness and has a gradually rising score, it might go like this:

<650, wasting time and inquiries

650-680, instant approval rare, but maybe via recon with a good story

680-700, decent chance with "relationship" prime cards like usaa, nfcu, local cu

700-720, chances are pretty good, chance of recon excellent with the right card

>720, rejection rare, assuming decent income/dti

>760, rejection rare enough to be newsworthy on this forum



Good informational breakdown.  Wish I would of known this about 8months ago.Smiley Wink

 


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Message 12 of 17
CreditScholar
Valued Contributor

Re: Primecards


@Cdnewmanpac wrote:

@Trigga wrote:

Yes i realize it varies stupid question i suppose Smiley Embarassed

 

 

But anyway i have a 30 day late 2years ago and also have 1 CO that i sent a PFD for didnt hear anything back yet .

 

Also my AAoA is almost 1 year oldest CC is 3yrs 8 months old


Assuming someone has a few subprime cards, is doing everything right after a period of badness and has a gradually rising score, it might go like this:

<650, wasting time and inquiries

650-680, instant approval rare, but maybe via recon with a good story

680-700, decent chance with "relationship" prime cards like usaa, nfcu, local cu

700-720, chances are pretty good, chance of recon excellent with the right card

>720, rejection rare, assuming decent income/dti

>760, rejection rare enough to be newsworthy on this forum


Now the question is... what about for higher-end cards that target mostly upper-prime and superprime applicants? Smiley Happy

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Message 13 of 17
mxp114
Valued Contributor

Re: Primecards

Are any cards prime these days? I remember when Chase, BofA, AmEx, Discover were more conservative, now it seems like they are ok with baddies and relatively low scores. I can't believe they issue Chase Freedom Platinum as low as $500. I guess the real prime aspect isn't just the lender but the terms you're awarded upon approval.

Message 14 of 17
Anonymous
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Re: Primecards


@mxp114 wrote:

Are any cards prime these days? I remember when Chase, BofA, AmEx, Discover were more conservative, now it seems like they are ok with baddies and relatively low scores. I can't believe they issue Chase Freedom Platinum as low as $500. I guess the real prime aspect isn't just the lender but the terms you're awarded upon approval.


The lenders are responding to the credit trend and trying to profit even if it's with a $500 limit awarded to someone who will carry a balance. They minimize their risk by approving a lot of people with ok scores in hopes of turning a profit for themselves and their shareholders. 

Message 15 of 17
Gollum
Established Contributor

Re: Primecards


@CreditScholar wrote:

Now the question is... what about for higher-end cards that target mostly upper-prime and superprime applicants? Smiley Happy

Simmons First Visa Platinum (7.25% variable APR)

or

Simmons First Visa Platinum Rewards (9.25% variable APR)

 

Simmons First apparently is very selective, though.  Someone with good-looking scores and credit limits posted (September 12, 2009) to this board that he/she was declined for having too much available credit and too many inquiries (two).

 

Here's a link for that post to this board:

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/simmons-first-visa-platinum-credit-card/m-p/571862#M181...

 

or

 

To read the post to this board, search (upper right corner of this window) this board for

simmons first too much available credit

The post is Message 34 in that thread.

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Message 16 of 17
anderl
Frequent Contributor

Re: Primecards

+1

 

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