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Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...


mikka1 wrote:

Pilotdude wrote:
(...)I believe Bcp is out of my reach until maybe next year this time. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't but I want to play it safer if possible.
My strategy is to go for the card that will be harder to get first and then tackle the easier ones last. So I am thinking at best, BCE (...).

A little bit offtopic, but from the lender perspective, I don't really think there's any difference between BCE and BCP acceptance criteria.

I can even assume that BCP might have slightly lower acceptance score threshold than BCE, as it has a potential of generating slightly higher fee income from AF.

So if you really want BCP and think it fits your profile better, than BCE does, I'd go for it. I have personally chosen BCE because I don't like AFs at all and I shop a lot in Target and Walmart, and AFAIK Amex does not give 6% on BCP in those stores, but not because I thought it's easier to get it than BCP...

 

Similarly, I don't really think that PRG or even Platinum cards have much stricter acceptance criteria than Green - as a lot is only about limit, not the color of the card...

 

Thought It's just IMHO, I might be wrong here.


I think you are 100% correct.

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...


Pilotdude wrote:

Henchman21 wrote:

Do you need to avoid the inq? If it won't hurt you too bad to get a denial...


Yea.  I'd like to avoid a inq if there is a good chance it won't result in an approval.  I might very well be overly cautious in that regard though. 

 

My inq picture is:

 

EX 7 but all old (well over a year and a half)

EQ 2 1 old, one from Jan 13

TU 2 1 old, one from Jan 13

 

 


I think I was worse off than you when I got approvals. 

 

I stand at:

EX: 20

EQ: 13

Tu: 13

 

INQs have little effect after 6 months and basically no effect after a year. So, your reports are basically free of INQs.

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...

My scores were very similar to yours when I was approved for BCP, ~700.  But I have two collection that were about six years old when I was approved.  If you have no derogs I think you'd be a shoe in. 

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...

Awesome.
I don't have my own Amex though. Been a au on wife's green since 2011.
Do you suppose that will count much with them?
Sorry if this is a noob question.

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...


Pilotdude wrote:
Awesome.
I don't have my own Amex though. Been a au on wife's green since 2011.
Do you suppose that will count much with them?
Sorry if this is a noob question.

Naw, not really. Maybe you can apply jointly for the account you want?

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...


Pilotdude wrote:
Thanks mikka.
I have heard that as well but slap me in the noggin and call me crazy, I just don't understand how a Preferred" higher echelon card could have the same lending criteria.
Of course I could be dead wrong and I'd love the 6% back (we shop 500 per month at Ralph's easy). Smiley Happy

Sorry, I don't do noggin slapping for free, but: Preferred is merely a marketing term, as are Gold, Elite, Diamond, Platinum etc.     Amex, and many other issuers, offer choice: a set of enhanced benefits for a fee (BCP) or a reduced set for free (BCE).  You seem to assume that people with higher scores would prefer the bigger benefits and pay a fee, but that really isn't the case.   Above the same minimum score level, it's up to the customer to decide which cost vs benefit they want.

The charge cards offer a similar choice, providing you are sufficiently credit worthy, Amex is happy to take your $450 for one set of benefits, or smaller amounts for less.

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bs6054 wrote:

Pilotdude wrote:
Thanks mikka.
I have heard that as well but slap me in the noggin and call me crazy, I just don't understand how a Preferred" higher echelon card could have the same lending criteria.
Of course I could be dead wrong and I'd love the 6% back (we shop 500 per month at Ralph's easy). Smiley Happy

Sorry, I don't do noggin slapping for free, but: Preferred is merely a marketing term, as are Gold, Elite, Diamond, Platinum etc.     Amex, and many other issuers, offer choice: a set of enhanced benefits for a fee (BCP) or a reduced set for free (BCE).  You seem to assume that people with higher scores would prefer the bigger benefits and pay a fee, but that really isn't the case.   Above the same minimum score level, it's up to the customer to decide which cost vs benefit they want.

The charge cards offer a similar choice, providing you are sufficiently credit worthy, Amex is happy to take your $450 for one set of benefits, or smaller amounts for less.


You explained it well. AMEX wants an annual fee. They won't place tougher restrictions on high dollar cards. They want somebody to go for the BCP over the BCE, it would be illogical to put higher requirements on it. Same goes for green vs PRG. 

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...

That does make a lot of sense. Smiley Happy

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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...

To answer the thread title's question, I was approved for Amex BCE, Chase Freedom, and Citi AAdvantage in January, but Creditcard.com's 'match' presented only sub-prime, crap cards. I'm not very confident in its accuracy.



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Re: Thoughts on Creditcard.com's "Your Match" results...

Yup. I get the feeling it's not very accurate really.
The benefit seems to be in the bonuses they sometimes have.
Since I am planning on trying for a couple cards soon, I checked there but was caught off guard by it spitting back BCP which I was under the impression would be more difficult to be approved for.
So if Bcp is not harder criteria and makes more sense for my situation, and since I was really leaning toward BCE anyway, if Bcp has an bonus, I might as well try my hand for it.
5 minutes from now though I may chicken out of course.
Either way, ain't nothing happening til Fridays statements report. Smiley Happy

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