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Razeus
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Registered: ‎04-02-2012

What does AMEX look for with the 61 day CLI?

I'll be CLIing my BCE on Nov. 7th for my 61st day CLI, hoping to get my $1k limit to $3k.

 

What does AMEX look for so I can improve my odds?


My statement will close Oct 19, and as usual, I'll be paying a chuck of my balance the day before so I only report no more than 10% of my limit.

 

I'm also thinking about not using my card from Oct 19th to Nov 7th in order not to have a high balance on the card (I use it for groceries and gas and restuarants mostly, every week, and with a small CL, it gets high pretty fast).

 

I fear since my score took a hit with all of my new lines reporting dropping my score 23 points since my AMEX approval, I will get denied, however.

 

Thoughts?

My Wallet:
Discover It $11,000 | Chase Freedom $5,000 | AMEX BCE $3,000 | Paypal Extras Platinum $5,000 | Wells Fargo $1,000 | AMEX Zync NPSL
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Revelate
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Registered: ‎12-30-2011

Re: What does AMEX look for with the 61 day CLI?

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Not certain we can be fully accurate on this one, fact is some people who hardly use the card get the  3X and some who heavily use it (and PIFing) don't.  There's a lot of details which aren't generally shared, may even somewhat depend where you typically shop as Open123 astutely suggested previously... Amex certainly isn't going to tell us.

 

Personally I'm still running as much of my financial life as I can through a card I want a CLI on, or trying to establish a relationship with the lender; this applies doubly to Amex since they get paid on both sides of the transaction; however, the reduction in score from new accounts might be problematic, or it may not be at all.  Amex absolutely uses their own internal metric, and we just don't know how that factors in all cases.

 

In any event I'd hit the monkey button regardless if it were me.  Worst case a denial and a note in the internal record, which is likely irrevelant anyway in the mid/long-term future as eventually almost everyone with good behavior should qualify for a CLI.

 


Starting Score: EQ 561, TU 567, EX 599* (12/30/11, EX lender pull 12/29/11)
Current Score: EQ 648, Wally TU 673, EX 687 (06/15/13)
Goal Score: 680 in all three (01/01/14)


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youngandcreditwrthy
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Registered: ‎08-16-2012

Re: What does AMEX look for with the 61 day CLI?

I want to know this too. So far Im doing what you are.. Keeping util <10% and pif even though it's at zero percent the first year!! Lol I love 0%!! Ahh lol but no bal carrying for me. Haha
Paypal Extras Plat MC $25k | Lowe's $15k | Amex BCE $24.5K | Amex Delta Gold $5.5k | WMT Discover $15k | Ban Repub Visa $14k | Dillard's $10k | Travelocity Amex $7.7k | JCP $6.5K | Smile Gen $6.25k | Freedom Visa $5k | Citi Dia Pref $5k | C1 No Hassle Cash Visa $5k | Discover IT $4.75k | Amazon Store $10k | ANFitch $2.95k | Express $3.05K | Chevron $2.1k | Orchard Gold $1.7k
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bribro
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Re: What does AMEX look for with the 61 day CLI?

FWIW, AmEx bumped me from $10k to $22.5k just after my 61 day mark and I rarely used the card (just enough to get the sign-up bonus). I made sure to PIF a week before requesting the CLI.

Credit Karma Score: 809 (6/8/13)
Credit Sesame Score: 795 (6/8/13)

J.P. Morgan Palladium ($100k x3) | AmEx Blue Sky ($50k) | Citi Dividend World Elite MC w/EMV ($20k) | Chase Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature ($25k) | Chase Ink Bold World Elite MC ($25k Flex) | Chase Freedom Visa Signature ($25k) | Chase Freedom World MC ($25k) | Chase MileagePlus Explorer Visa Signature ($15k) | Lexus Financial Services ($30k)
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TWMAZ
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Re: What does AMEX look for with the 61 day CLI?

When do you start counting the 61 days, is from approval date?

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bribro
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Registered: ‎04-20-2012

Re: What does AMEX look for with the 61 day CLI?


TWMAZ wrote:

When do you start counting the 61 days, is from approval date?


Activation date. You can always ask a CSR how many days it's been before you ask for a CLI to double check.

Credit Karma Score: 809 (6/8/13)
Credit Sesame Score: 795 (6/8/13)

J.P. Morgan Palladium ($100k x3) | AmEx Blue Sky ($50k) | Citi Dividend World Elite MC w/EMV ($20k) | Chase Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature ($25k) | Chase Ink Bold World Elite MC ($25k Flex) | Chase Freedom Visa Signature ($25k) | Chase Freedom World MC ($25k) | Chase MileagePlus Explorer Visa Signature ($15k) | Lexus Financial Services ($30k)
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youngandcreditwrthy
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Registered: ‎08-16-2012

Re: What does AMEX look for with the 61 day CLI?

Bribro-my plan is to do what you did. My avg spend is about $300-400 a month anyway, so I can do $1000 in 90 days to get the $100 back on my BCE :-D
Paypal Extras Plat MC $25k | Lowe's $15k | Amex BCE $24.5K | Amex Delta Gold $5.5k | WMT Discover $15k | Ban Repub Visa $14k | Dillard's $10k | Travelocity Amex $7.7k | JCP $6.5K | Smile Gen $6.25k | Freedom Visa $5k | Citi Dia Pref $5k | C1 No Hassle Cash Visa $5k | Discover IT $4.75k | Amazon Store $10k | ANFitch $2.95k | Express $3.05K | Chevron $2.1k | Orchard Gold $1.7k

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