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Amex is legendary for having the memory of an elephant. In the 1960's my father took out an Amex card using my name (I was 14 or 15 at the time and knew nothing about it). He defaulted on it. Fast forward to the 1980's and I apply for an Amex card. I was declined. It took me almost a year to convince them that I had no knowledge of the account my father opened in my name. I got the card with a very low line and Amex closed it within months for no reason (I used the card once or twice and paid the bill in full, so I have no idea why). I suspect the history of my father was still lurking in the bacground.
On the other extreme, Cap1 is legendary for not holding a grudge and re-opening
Who else has a long memory besides Amex?
I believe Amex is the most notorious. For them to approve you, you have to pay back what was charged off, or at least used to be this.
I think Chase has a long memory too.
BofA, Citi, and of course CapOne don't seem to have a long memory with the latter being the shortest. Could we say that CapOne is the Alzheimer's bank of credit cards...?...
@Anonymous wrote:
I’ve been wondering about Citi. I used to have a HSBC Best Buy card that I defaulted on. At some point it got sold to Citi before going to collections. Do you guys think I would ever be able to get in with Citi?
I always thought Amex and Chase was the worst.
I've been wondering about this myself for some time. I had a Best Buy store card that was originally with HSBC, then transferred to Capital One, then in September 2013 transferred to Citi; it was included in my 2014 Chapter 7 BK. I've been holding back on applying for Citi's Best Buy and/or Costco cards for pretty much that reason, not being sure if I'd get auto-denied because of my BK and whether asking for a recon would do any good. In point of fact, the question isn't that urgent right now because I'm staying a spell in the garden after having had a bit of a spree starting with a $4000 Overstock in late May and finishing with a $3000 Penfed Power Cash Rewards Visa this past weekend, but I'm still thinking about the possibility once the holiday season approaches as I'll be in the market for a replacement for my 5 1/2-year-old laptop then. (Then again, at that time I might be able to get Penfed to give me a CLI to cover the purchase so I don't ding my util too badly...)
Agreed about Amex.
I've also heard several reports of people being denied for Chase cards for very old defaults on cards with banks Chase later acquired.
@Anonymous wrote:Amex is legendary for having the memory of an elephant. In the 1960's my father took out an Amex card using my name (I was 14 or 15 at the time and knew nothing about it). He defaulted on it. Fast forward to the 1980's and I apply for an Amex card. I was declined. It took me almost a year to convince them that I had no knowledge of the account my father opened in my name. I got the card with a very low line and Amex closed it within months for no reason (I used the card once or twice and paid the bill in full, so I have no idea why). I suspect the history of my father was still lurking in the bacground.
On the other extreme, Cap1 is legendary for not holding a grudge and re-opening
Who else has a long memory besides Amex?
They all have memory's of elephants the only catch is if they are willing to forgive you and how much of a nightmare they want to make your life. American Express is notorious for being unforgiving. Chase will bring skeletons out of the purchased closet to smack you with a wall by going after you for old accounts that they took over. Then you have Bank of America that will require you to recon for pretty much the rest of your life after a dozen years of waiting. Citi will usually wait for the BK to fall off(10yr) before they talk with you. Discover likes 4-7yr before they let you in but will happily flood you with preapprovals before then. Capitol One will hold you off for a year but the chance to let you rebuild will usually tempt them to give you a card with horrible terms. The Alzheimer's patient of the bunch is Synchrony Bank, or more like completely lobotomized. They will sometimes keep cards open after the collection and when they don't will approve some applications right after closing the BK process.
PenFed.
i bought a Plymouth in 1984. It was financed at a dealer in Germany.
I was so young that I paid zero attention to who financed it.
i was divorced and the car went bye bye about the same time as the marriage.
31 years later I joined PenFed and they asked me about a Plymouth. Confused the heck out of me.
I apped for a card and the reason for denial was;
"previously caused PenFed to suffer a loss" or something along those lines.
Ex let it go with less than a $1000 left owing.
PenFed lasted longer than the Plymouth brand!
I can personally 'vouch' for Amex... they might somewhat forgive, but they never forget. I included them in BK7 back in 2000, and they have no issues approving me for new accounts now but they consistently decline any CLI request specifically due to the BK from 17 years ago. That said, I have received one 3x auto-CLI, and my last new approval did have a nice starting line, but everything must be at their pace. Note that I'm not complaining about this... I actually expected to be forever locked out, and I'm pleased to be back "in" at all.
The only other lender that still has issues with me based on the past is Barclays... I had an old Juniper card years ago that was charged-off just as it was switching over to Barclays, and they used that as the reason to deny me for Sallie Mae a couple of years ago. Knowing what I know now about Barclays I'm not too torn-up over it, though.
NFCU
I defaulted on a credit card (included in BK) in the early 90's. In 2014, applied for a savings/checking account. My deposit was sent back to me without explaination. An inquiry to NFCU concluded that I was back listed due to the default. So we are talking about a 30 year memory and denial for opening a savings account.