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Re: generate pre approvals

Interesting theory, Scott. Can you keep us posted as to if this is effective or not? You've got me curious about this...

Message 11 of 23
Walt_K
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Re: generate pre approvals


@scottwagnon wrote:

i have been testing this idea out but i go to a bank, credit union, grab a pamphlet or go directly to their website, select and apply for one of the credit cards that they offer that i like the most. then i fill out the applicaton and press continue/confirm to post. once i am on the confirm and submit page and see that all of my information is correct, i simply close the window. i have filled out 4 applications doing this and not actually applying. i just started doing this as an experiment to see if it will work, so i dont know what will happen. i hope my theory is correct about them saving my information and then responding to it by soft pulling my credit, thus sending me offers that they are willing to qualify me for. for now i am keeping my fingers crossed. 


What is it you are trying to accomplish?  Are you looking for better signup bonus offers? You can probably find those by searching the internet.

 

I don't think banks relax their credit criteria with a preapproval.  If you get approved applying in response to a preapproval, I would imagine you would have been approved if you had just applied without the preapproval.


 


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Message 12 of 23
Established Contributor

Re: generate pre approvals


@scottwagnon wrote:

i have been testing this idea out but i go to a bank, credit union, grab a pamphlet or go directly to their website, select and apply for one of the credit cards that they offer that i like the most. then i fill out the application and press continue/confirm to post. once i am on the confirm and submit page and see that all of my information is correct, i simply close the window. ...........

 

.......i hope my theory is correct about them saving my information and then responding to it by soft pulling my credit, thus sending me offers that they are willing to qualify me for. For now I am keeping my fingers crossed. 



If that procedure fails to generate any offers you can go back and repeat the process by almost applying for deposit accounts. You could almost open a checking account by almost transferring a few thousand dollars from a competitor where you park a whole lot of cash. How about shopping for CDs or IRA accounts. Who knows? You raise some interesting questions.

 

As for myself, if I wanted an offer from a particular bank, I would actually open both a checking and savings account and then park a minimum of $5,000 in each. I would opt in for all offers and then get a bigger mail box.

 

I don't know if you have a few thousand dollars available for deposit. If you do that's the way I do it. I call that system; "Show them the money". Of course it wouldn't hurt to grab a $100 sign up bonus if you can find one. I call that; "I show them my money and they give me their money".  Smiley Wink

 

It also could help to target a bank that is a big competitor of a bank that appears as a tradeline in your credit reports. I think that would help in the approval process once an offer is accepted by you. It would also maximize the potential for the highest original credit limit. Chase and BofA has competed for my Luv for years.

 

Perhaps you are ready to shop around for an account to replace BofA and its new debit card fees. You could (almost) try to save the $5.00/month fee. Unlike your credit tradelines, new creditors don't see deposit accounts in your reports. Keep em guessing. Nobody can know for sure how many, savings, checking, cds, etc. you do or don't have.

 

Let us know how things work out. I think I might almost apply for some new credit/deposit accounts just to see what happens.  Might be fun ! Smiley Happy

 

Message 13 of 23
SevenNEW
Established Contributor

Re: generate pre approvals


@CreditAble wrote:

@scottwagnon wrote:

i have been testing this idea out but i go to a bank, credit union, grab a pamphlet or go directly to their website, select and apply for one of the credit cards that they offer that i like the most. then i fill out the application and press continue/confirm to post. once i am on the confirm and submit page and see that all of my information is correct, i simply close the window. ...........

 

.......i hope my theory is correct about them saving my information and then responding to it by soft pulling my credit, thus sending me offers that they are willing to qualify me for. For now I am keeping my fingers crossed. 



If that procedure fails to generate any offers you can go back and repeat the process by almost applying for deposit accounts. You could almost open a checking account by almost transferring a few thousand dollars from a competitor where you park a whole lot of cash. How about shopping for CDs or IRA accounts. Who knows? You raise some interesting questions.

 

As for myself, if I wanted an offer from a particular bank, I would actually open both a checking and savings account and then park a minimum of $5,000 in each. I would opt in for all offers and then get a bigger mail box.

 

I don't know if you have a few thousand dollars available for deposit. If you do that's the way I do it. I call that system; "Show them the money". Of course it wouldn't hurt to grab a $100 sign up bonus if you can find one. I call that; "I show them my money and they give me their money".  Smiley Wink

 

It also could help to target a bank that is a big competitor of a bank that appears as a tradeline in your credit reports. I think that would help in the approval process once an offer is accepted by you. It would also maximize the potential for the highest original credit limit. Chase and BofA has competed for my Luv for years.

 

Perhaps you are ready to shop around for an account to replace BofA and its new debit card fees. You could (almost) try to save the $5.00/month fee. Unlike your credit tradelines, new creditors don't see deposit accounts in your reports. Keep em guessing. Nobody can know for sure how many, savings, checking, cds, etc. you do or don't have.

 

Let us know how things work out. I think I might almost apply for some new credit/deposit accounts just to see what happens.  Might be fun ! Smiley Happy

 


Isn't this a lot of work for a $100 bonus?

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Message 14 of 23
Established Contributor

Re: generate pre approvals


@SevenNEW wrote:

Isn't this a lot of work for a $100 bonus?

 

 


As per the thread topic, the primary objective is to generate pre approved credit card offers. Opening a checking account is not much work for me. I simply fill in the blanks. I don't really think that it is any more work than filling out all the credit card apps that the OP fills out and then doesn't submit.  We are only filling out apps. If I was going to apply for a checking account why wouldn't I consider a $100 gift from a bank?

 

Some people used to say that it was a lot of work to take a 1 yr, 0%, fee free, $20,000 credit card balance transfer check from FIA; and  then deposit it in a 5% BofA CD for a year. A few hours total over a year to stay on top of things netted a pretty good hourly rate of return. Even so the primary objective wasn't to pick up almost $1,000 for doing next to nothing. I used those BTs over time to raise my credit limits far beyond what my monthly usage would have warranted. The high limits were part of the plan to reach my 800 FICO score. My mission was accomplished and I picked up about $4,000 of free money along the way.  

 

My point is that the work I am willing to do to accomplish my objectives might seem to be a lot of work for you to do but it might not be so hard for me. I personally don't have any difficulty filling out forms.

 

I was simply responding to the OP request for additional ideas. He might actually like the idea of getting paid a hundred dollars while endeavoring to get a few more pre approved offers. There are many people in this forum who advocate a lot of undertakings that I personally wouldn't see being worth my efforts, but I don't reply to their posts just to tell them so. I am sorry that my suggestions to the OP doesn't make much sense to you, and I do understand your point of view. There are plenty of things in life that are not worth my time. Many people might find the OP's pastime of almost apping for credit cards, is "not worth the work". I think it is an interesting concept.

 

It doesn't take me a whole hour to fill out a form. Even If it did I would be making $100 for that hour. Even if it was just a $50 bonus, that would be a free dinner out. Of course in the first place, the only purpose of my suggestion was to obtain a credit card offer from a particular bank by opening a deposit account with that bank. If there was a signup offer to boot, that would be A BonusSmiley Wink

 

I apologize if I didn't make myself clear enough in my prior post.  

Message 15 of 23
Odiseous
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Re: generate pre approvals

 


Isn't this a lot of work for a $100 bonus?


 

IMHO, yes. But that's only my *current* opinion. 

 

The real question is: How much value do you currently place on your 'free' (not spent at work) time? Can that time be spent in a better way, based on your particular situation?

 

There are several reasons why some people get out of bed at 6am on a Saturday, to go to the Garage Sales that they mapped out from the ads in Friday's newspaper. Personally; I wouldn't do it. But; I'm now in a much better place than I was. 

 

As a child; I used to watch my Grandmother drive half way across town; to save $0.10 per pound, on whatever she was buying in bulk that week. At the time, I thought she was nuts.

 

Several years later; I remember standing in line for over an hour; just for a free lunch, when I was homeless. When you sleep on the streets, and have no clue where your next meal is going to come from; the promise of a hearty meal is worth a *lot* in time spent to get it.

 

I remember spending *all day*, for multiple days in a row; just waiting to see if I was approved for food stamps, so I didn't die of starvation. 

 

At that point in my life; I realized that my Grandmother's actions may not have been so out there.  

 

Fast Forward to today: I'm lucky enough; that I no longer have to scrimp & save every penny, to get by. It didn't used to be that way. My Saturday mornings of sleeping in until noon, are worth a lot to me. You'd be amazed at how valuable being able to sleep in is (instead of having shop owners waking you at 6 am to kick you off the sidewalk; and threatening to call the cops if you don't leave). 

 

So, yes.  For some; that would be a lot of work for $100. For others; $100 goes a long ways. 

 

As always YMMV.

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Message 16 of 23
scottwagnon
Valued Contributor

Re: generate pre approvals

creditable, very interesting idea. actually, i'm just interested in working the system to my advantage so i can 'fish' out the very finest preapprovals mankind has to offer. i want to use banks against each other so i can benefit from them i guess the way you do. i guess im just not interested in building capital, but rather credit and options from this concept.

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Message 17 of 23
haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: generate pre approvals

Keep us posted if you wind up "artificially generating" a Financial Review. Smiley Wink

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Message 18 of 23
Established Contributor

Re: generate pre approvals


@Odiseous wrote:

 


Isn't this a lot of work for a $100 bonus?


 

IMHO, yes. But that's only my *current* opinion

 

The real question is: How much value do you currently place

on your 'free' (not spent at work) time? Can that time be spent

in a better way, based on your particular situation?

      

 I'm lucky enough; that I no longer have to scrimp & save every penny

 

So, yes.  For some; that would be a lot of work for $100.

For others; $100 goes a long ways. 

 

As always YMMV.


All of your points were well made. I was raised by parents who were children during the depression. I never quite had your experiences but I have had a wonderful life staying out of debt and not living beyond my means. Myself I don't need an extra $100, but I will not turn down a hundred dollars if it is being offered. I certainly don't do anything in life I don't already want to do just for a hundred dollars.

 

Personally I still get a lot of pre approved offers for credit cards and some even come with a $100 or more signup offer. I have enough credit cards for my needs so I don't apply for a card just for a $100 bonus. But if I wanted the card that would be another matter. I get $100 offers to open checking accounts. I have enough accounts for now so I don't open more just for the $100. There are many people who open and close checking accounts frequently just to get a few hundred dollars a year. I never personally did that. That doesn't mean that others shouldn't do it.

 

I spent quite a bit of time, possibly too much time responding to the same post you did.

Now that I read your post, I believe all that I had needed to say was:  

 

"Different Strokes For Different Folks Smiley Tongue !"

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Message 19 of 23
scottwagnon
Valued Contributor

Re: generate pre approvals

umm. thats amex. im not actually having my credit hard pulled, but certainly a ton of soft pulls. i don't plan on 'fishing' either until i know i am good and ready. FR? you mean cause i just got a gold card combined with 'maxing out' the credit check tool? Smiley Surprised


@haulingthescoreup wrote:

Keep us posted if you wind up "artificially generating" a Financial Review. Smiley Wink


 

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Message 20 of 23
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