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Do NOT report incorrect income information on an application for credit. It's not only fraud - it is a Federal crime to do so. As others have said, if you were approved for more when you shouldn't have been with such an income, and you become unable to repay your debt, it could lead to bankruptcy courts denying relief of debt, massive fines, or even being sentenced to time in Federal prison.
If it asks for household income, report accurate household income. If it asks for individual income, report individual income. Do NOT fudge numbers.
Personally, I would never even dream of doing anything like this! Let me just give you this scenario. I work for a very well-reknowned law enforcement agency, and last year there was a gentleman who "fudged" some information on a credit application.
Needless to say, the dealership called us, (because they knew the transaction was a fraudulent one), and we ended up arresting the guy.
I hope this helps...moral of the story, I wouldn't do it.
Just my two cents worth...
I agree with the general consensus, don't fudge the numbers, not worth it.
@Elated wrote:Personally, I would never even dream of doing anything like this! Let me just give you this scenario. I work for a very well-reknowned law enforcement agency, and last year there was a gentleman who "fudged" some information on a credit application.
Needless to say, the dealership called us, (because they knew the transaction was a fraudulent one), and we ended up arresting the guy.
I hope this helps...moral of the story, I wouldn't do it.
Just my two cents worth...
It sounds like that was a case of identity theft and not false income info.
No mxp, that is not the case. The gentleman "fudged" his income on a credit application, and had been going around to many of the local area top notch dealerships doing the same thing. It was later discovered that he was involved in some type of auto theft ring involving expensive vehicles. Ultimately, the vehicles ended up being sold and he was pocketing and profiting from the proceeds, and using that as income.
For some of the vehicles he'd would do large down payments and finance the other half with fraudulent monies and income he couldn't prove. Only to go on to the next dealership, and several others around the state, doing the same thing.
@JMN wrote:Do NOT report incorrect income information on an application for credit. It's not only fraud - it is a Federal crime to do so. As others have said, if you were approved for more when you shouldn't have been with such an income, and you become unable to repay your debt, it could lead to bankruptcy courts denying relief of debt, massive fines, or even being sentenced to time in Federal prison.
If it asks for household income, report accurate household income. If it asks for individual income, report individual income. Do NOT fudge numbers.
I usually report only my base pay and leave out a few other smaller sources of income, which can vary,. That way I would only need to supply one paystub if asked. It is about 75% of my the total.
Technically, do you think that is a crime?
@Elated wrote:No mxp, that is not the case. The gentleman "fudged" his income on a credit application, and had been going around to many of the local area top notch dealerships doing the same thing. It was later discovered that he was involved in some type of auto theft ring involving expensive vehicles. Ultimately, the vehicles ended up being sold and he was pocketing and profiting from the proceeds, and using that as income.
For some of the vehicles he'd would do large down payments and finance the other half with fraudulent monies and income he couldn't prove. Only to go on to the next dealership, and several others around the state, doing the same thing.
So basically it was more than just lying about income, it was a scam in the form of auto theft ring. That was it, I just figured it was a more involving scenario. At least that crook was caught.
@Wolf3 wrote:
@JMN wrote:Do NOT report incorrect income information on an application for credit. It's not only fraud - it is a Federal crime to do so. As others have said, if you were approved for more when you shouldn't have been with such an income, and you become unable to repay your debt, it could lead to bankruptcy courts denying relief of debt, massive fines, or even being sentenced to time in Federal prison.
If it asks for household income, report accurate household income. If it asks for individual income, report individual income. Do NOT fudge numbers.
I usually report only my base pay and leave out a few other smaller sources of income, which can vary,. That way I would only need to supply one paystub if asked. It is about 75% of my the total.
Technically, do you think that is a crime?
I do the same thing, only report the base pay. Though; I've seen people use their previous years total gross pay (including overtime, bonuses, etc).
As to the legality about which is accurate, I don't know. I imagine it's based on the wording on the App.
Example: Let's say you make a base wage of $50k, but happen to have made an additional $10k if OT/Bonus the previous year; your annual income was $60k.
I imagine you could then possibly legaly say your 'annual income' is $60k; if you can reasonably expect to have the same amount in OT/Bonus again this year.
Then again; if all of a sudden there is no OT/Bonus this year, and you get a FR asking for this years taxes; it may come back to bite you.
@Wolf3 wrote:
@JMN wrote:Do NOT report incorrect income information on an application for credit. It's not only fraud - it is a Federal crime to do so. As others have said, if you were approved for more when you shouldn't have been with such an income, and you become unable to repay your debt, it could lead to bankruptcy courts denying relief of debt, massive fines, or even being sentenced to time in Federal prison.
If it asks for household income, report accurate household income. If it asks for individual income, report individual income. Do NOT fudge numbers.
I usually report only my base pay and leave out a few other smaller sources of income, which can vary,. That way I would only need to supply one paystub if asked. It is about 75% of my the total.
Technically, do you think that is a crime?
Not at all. By fudging numbers, I mean over-reporting one's income. Under-reporting isn't an issue at all.
You're not falsifying anything - you do in fact make that amount, and more. It's when people who report they make a certain amount, and do not, is when the criminal issues arise.