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Christina_xyt
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what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?

I notice a promotion going on with 75000 sign up bonus. I hesitate to apply because I still don't know what the point value is....

 

The deal seems to be too good to be true so i wonder if the point value is acutally kinda low...

 

2x on everything, 3x on grocery / gas.. 6x on participating hotel and no annual fee. It really makes me think that the value point is very low like 2-3 point = 1 cent.


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Anonymous
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Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?


@Christina_xyt wrote:

I notice a promotion going on with 75000 sign up bonus. I hesitate to apply because I still don't know what the point value is....

 

The deal seems to be too good to be true so i wonder if the point value is acutally kinda low...

 

2x on everything, 3x on grocery / gas.. 6x on participating hotel and no annual fee. It really makes me think that the value point is very low like 2-3 point = 1 cent.


The Points Guy values them at .5 cents so they're really towards the bottom of value 

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red259
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Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Christina_xyt wrote:

I notice a promotion going on with 75000 sign up bonus. I hesitate to apply because I still don't know what the point value is....

 

The deal seems to be too good to be true so i wonder if the point value is acutally kinda low...

 

2x on everything, 3x on grocery / gas.. 6x on participating hotel and no annual fee. It really makes me think that the value point is very low like 2-3 point = 1 cent.


The Points Guy values them at .5 cents so they're really towards the bottom of value 


+1 I don't try to earn these points with credit card spend because the value is soo low compared to other chains. 

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NRB525
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Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?

I got the card in late April. The points seem to have the best value when you find an expensive room in a hotel that offers Points and Money. So you cut off some of the nightly rate, for x number of points, then pay a cash base rate. You can get close to a penny value per point in this situation.

 

The AMEX coding of stores is different from MC and VISA. The Fred Meyer where I shop does not code any of my three AMEX as groceries (one is non-Centurion but they are of course all using the AMEX network), and the cafeteria at work codes as "business other" so not dining. VISA and MC code both these places like you'd expect.

 

so it is possible to get good points return, but like a lot of travel rewards cards, you have to watch where you intend to redeem.

Hilton redemptions can be as bad as 3 tenths of a cent value, if you get a $149 room for 50,000 points.

Get a $279 room for 20,000 points plus $85 and you are looking at near a cent value per point.

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NRB525
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Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?


@red259 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Christina_xyt wrote:

I notice a promotion going on with 75000 sign up bonus. I hesitate to apply because I still don't know what the point value is....

 

The deal seems to be too good to be true so i wonder if the point value is acutally kinda low...

 

2x on everything, 3x on grocery / gas.. 6x on participating hotel and no annual fee. It really makes me think that the value point is very low like 2-3 point = 1 cent.


The Points Guy values them at .5 cents so they're really towards the bottom of value 


+1 I don't try to earn these points with credit card spend because the value is soo low compared to other chains. 


if you get groceries or gas, 5 points, and work the redemption correctly, Hilton points can be worth a lot of value. Not a cashless transaction to get the room, but a translation of nearly a penny per point. If you watch those pennies Smiley Happy

Marriott is similar, Club Carlson also. Hyatt is worth more, but you can't do points + cash with Hyatt. SPG I presume is worth more but haven't checked. But then with SPG, you earn less points per dollar spend.

 

If you are moving MR or UR or TY points to hotels, that is cra cra. Direct hotel credit cards, however, can make up for the low point value by piling more points into a category.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Christina_xyt
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Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?

ahh

 

thanks for all the responding up there.. i was so tempting to app for this, but i guess now i am not that interested.. the value is too low low..


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red259
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Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?


@NRB525 wrote:

@red259 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Christina_xyt wrote:

I notice a promotion going on with 75000 sign up bonus. I hesitate to apply because I still don't know what the point value is....

 

The deal seems to be too good to be true so i wonder if the point value is acutally kinda low...

 

2x on everything, 3x on grocery / gas.. 6x on participating hotel and no annual fee. It really makes me think that the value point is very low like 2-3 point = 1 cent.


The Points Guy values them at .5 cents so they're really towards the bottom of value 


+1 I don't try to earn these points with credit card spend because the value is soo low compared to other chains. 


if you get groceries or gas, 5 points, and work the redemption correctly, Hilton points can be worth a lot of value. Not a cashless transaction to get the room, but a translation of nearly a penny per point. If you watch those pennies Smiley Happy

Marriott is similar, Club Carlson also. Hyatt is worth more, but you can't do points + cash with Hyatt. SPG I presume is worth more but haven't checked. But then with SPG, you earn less points per dollar spend.

 

If you are moving MR or UR or TY points to hotels, that is cra cra. Direct hotel credit cards, however, can make up for the low point value by piling more points into a category.


SPG earning is slower but their redemption requirements are lower too. Just stayed at two SPG properties and was happy with the return on points.  

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NRB525
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Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?


@Christina_xyt wrote:

ahh

 

thanks for all the responding up there.. i was so tempting to app for this, but i guess now i am not that interested.. the value is too low low..


Your siggy does not look like you have any sort of travel card? Starting out with a specific hotel card is certainly possible, if one stays at that hotel chain a lot it can make sense. But as the "first travel card" it's often not the best choice. Your redemptions are tied in with the specific locations of that hotel. At least with airline cards, they go lots of different places.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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red259
Super Contributor

Re: what is the value of CITI Hhornors point?


@NRB525 wrote:

@Christina_xyt wrote:

ahh

 

thanks for all the responding up there.. i was so tempting to app for this, but i guess now i am not that interested.. the value is too low low..


Your siggy does not look like you have any sort of travel card? Starting out with a specific hotel card is certainly possible, if one stays at that hotel chain a lot it can make sense. But as the "first travel card" it's often not the best choice. Your redemptions are tied in with the specific locations of that hotel. At least with airline cards, they go lots of different places.


+1 a more general travel card is probably the best way to start out. Hotel cards come later on unless you are a frequent user of specific hotel chains. 

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