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Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?

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haulingthescoreup
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Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100762999

Morning Edition, February 17, 2009 · In the continuing series on the lexicon of financial misfortune, Morning Edition introduces the term "zombie bank." A zombie bank keeps draining bailout capital from the government but doesn't respond with any meaningful lending that helps the economy recover. The prevalence of zombie banks made the long Japanese recession of the 1990s especially painful.
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moonman
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Re: Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?

With all the financial madness going on right now,nothing surprises me anymoreSmiley Mad
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BBYGRL
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Re: Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?

Here's Wikipedia's definition:

 

A Zombie Bank refers to a bank with a net worth which is less than zero, but which continues to operate because of implicit or explicit government guarantee. Zombie banks are a key factor in causing a silent bank run, since the reliability of the government guarantee can be called into question when a significant number of banks are in distress.[1]

 

I'm sure someone will update it soon.

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fused
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Re: Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?

I have to think both CITI and BoA will be nationalized.

 

Today,  

CITI closed at 1.95 down 0.56 (-22.31%)

BoA closed at 3.79 down 0.14 (-3.56%)

 

Shareholders are selling off. Wall St. has always said these two banks are too Big to fail, yeah right.

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marty56
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Re: Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?


@fused wrote:

I have to think both CITI and BoA will be nationalized.


Mabye if BofA gets nationalized, I could transfer my civil service postion to them and work in the computer programming area and then adjust my BofA TL.Smiley Wink

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Anonymous
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Re: Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?

I also agree that Citi, BofA and the other "too big to fail" banks

will be nationalized (placed into federal receivership).

 

However, I think a better way of saying the same thing is this:

 

Let the FDIC do its job. Take over all of the "too big to fail" banks

at the same time and get them on their feet as quickly as possible.

 

Besides providing insurance to individual account holders, one of

the major functions of the FDIC is to take over failing banks

(place them in receivership). Then they sell off the bad assets,

keep the good assets, recapitalize what's left of the banks and

return them to the private sector once they become profitable.

 

How do they become "profitable" again? Simple --- they start making money

by lending to their customers while in receivership. Once they establish a

clear pattern of profitability, only then would the FDIC allow the banks to return

to the private sector.

 

Since all of the banks would be taken over at the same time, there would

be less of a stigma attached to being placed into receivership. It would also

be easier for the FDIC to establish prices for the "bad assets" because they

could evaluate them all at once. If the too big to fail banks go into receivership

one or two at a time, then the remaining banks could suffer additional losses,

which just means more money that they'd need down the road.

 

Yes, this would cost a lot of money. But it would actually cost less money

over the long run than doling out billions to banks that have no intention of

lending the money...which means their share values continue to plummet...

which means they continue to lose money....which means they need even

more money from the Fed just to stay afloat.

 

I say let's do this thing in one fell swoop and be done with it. All of this

footdragging doesn't do anyone any good. And besides, since the banks

have taken so much taxpayer money already they're pretty much nationalized

as it is...

 

CanDo

 

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Uborrow-Upay
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Re: Are Citi and BofA now "zombie banks"?

Bravo, CanDoAttitude!  Well said.

 

 

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