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Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers

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veracious
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Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers

The five separate investigations were conducted by the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s inspector general and examined Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial, the sources said.

The audits accuse the five major lenders of violating the False Claims Act, a Civil War-era law crafted as a weapon against firms that swindle the government. The audits were completed between February and March, the sources said. The internal watchdog office at HUD referred its findings to the Department of Justice, which must now decide whether to file charges.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/16/foreclosure-fraud-audit-false-claims-act_n_862686.html?view...

 

Fraud, deception, and more fraud.

Another story that is only the tip of the iceberg.

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haulingthescoreup
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Re: Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers

It would be SO wonderful if some of these guys were finally held accountable for their deeds.

 

Speaking very generally, first they ruin the economy with their ridiculous loans, and then they swindle the government.

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veracious
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Re: Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers

I agree with you hauling.

I hope  the FBI  has continued success in their Mortgage Fraud Division in prosecuting the fraudsters

who are STILL  out there. Most people think these people would have curtailed this illegal behavior, but no, just like the drug pushers,

they simply move to a new market, utilizing more clever ways to cheat, steal, and defraud unsuspecting consumers.

 

Look at what is happening in the mortgage rescue  schemes.

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marty56
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Re: Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers


@veracious wrote:

The five separate investigations were conducted by the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s inspector general and examined Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial, the sources said.


Would have never guessed  BofA would make the list.Smiley Tongue

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veracious
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Re: Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers

 


@marty56 wrote:

@veracious wrote:

The five separate investigations were conducted by the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s inspector general and examined Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial, the sources said.


Would have never guessed  BofA would make the list.Smiley Tongue




Suprise, suprise.  Hey ,  IMO  free market strategies dissapoint  and suprise the average  American.

 

Bank of America, just by the virtual choice of their corporate moniker would not take advantage of anyone, especially we Americans since

and our hard earned money is involded.  Some of the foriegn-based banks I'm not so sure,  Deutsche, HSBC, Banco Santander, etc., would

definitely take advantage of us through the mortgage-backed securities. They are the banks whose investors  purchased a lot of these  securities.

 

The top 5 banks mentioned were only thinking of their shareholders, thus,  when opportunity arrived, they took advantage. 

They just never looked at it as fraud.  Smiley Surprised

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stan_the_man
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Re: Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers


@veracious wrote:

 


@marty56 wrote:

@veracious wrote:

The five separate investigations were conducted by the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s inspector general and examined Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial, the sources said.


Would have never guessed  BofA would make the list.Smiley Tongue




Suprise, suprise.  Hey ,  IMO  free market strategies dissapoint  and suprise the average  American.

 

Bank of America, just by the virtual choice of their corporate moniker would not take advantage of anyone, especially we Americans since

and our hard earned money is involded.  Some of the foriegn-based banks I'm not so sure,  Deutsche, HSBC, Banco Santander, etc., would

definitely take advantage of us through the mortgage-backed securities. They are the banks whose investors  purchased a lot of these  securities.

 

The top 5 banks mentioned were only thinking of their shareholders, thus,  when opportunity arrived, they took advantage. 

They just never looked at it as fraud.  Smiley Surprised


The only problem is that the U.S. mortgage market is not a free market in any sense of the word. You have to remember that this keystone cop investigation is regarding FHA loans, which is more or less completely managed by the federal government.

 

Add in the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the USDA loan program and the VA loan program and a signficant portion of the U.S. mortgage market is controlled, backed or implicitly backed by the federal government.

 

If you want to have more fun with this, several of those banks are being "investigated" for the actions of distressed banks that they purchased at the request of the federal government or very late into the morgage crisis:

 

  • Bank Of America - Countrywide
  • JPMorgan Chase - Washington Mutual
  • Wells Fargo - Wachovia
  • Deutsche Bank - MortgageIT

And, this is where it gets better. Most of the very politicians who are crying wolf and want the scalps of these banks are the same politicians who pressured everyone to lossen lending standards and make more loans that got us into this mess to being with.

 

There are no good players in this mess -- neither the politicians who pressured the banks, the bureaucrats who looked the other way, the banks who lent the money, nor the borrowers who overextended themselves. Greed was abound whether it was for votes, a no aggravation jobs and promotions, profits, or "free" money from a refi or more house then they could afford.

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Anonymous
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Re: Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers

Actually, Wells Fargo -> Wachovia -> World Savings

 

 

World Savings is an important name to remember even though it's long-since dead.   They were the inventor of the Pick-A-Payment ARM mortgage, also known as the Option ARM.

 

 

The Option ARM was designed to target credit scores in the average to good ranges, and marketed to people who had never tried to obtain a mortgage before---mostly young professionals, young families, etc.   The dollar amount of total Option ARM loans ever written is many times that of sub-prime ARM mortgages.

 

Remember Lehman Brothers?   They copied this model and created a negative equity option---you could pay LESS than Interest-only on your ARM, and any interest you didn't pay back was added to your principal.  These mortgages don't finish resetting/recasting until September of this year.   When an Option ARM resets to a 1/1 ARM and recasts to a 25yr term, if you weren't paying the maximum option, you're guaranteed to default.   People used Option ARMs to squeeze into properties they could not have afforded with a 30-year loan, then didn't bother to pay the 30-year Amortization payment, they picked either the Interest-Only or the Discount option every month.

 

When your loan switches from a 30-year payment period to a 25-year payment period, AND your balance has been growing too.... well if you couldn't afford the house on a 30-year fixed loan, are you going to afford it on a 25?

 

 

That type of bait-n-switch product is financial suicide; and many more people signed up for those Kamikazi loans than the sub-primers did and most lost their houses as a result.   Had Option ARM not existed, it's entirely possible that the sub-prime crash wouldn't have mattered that much to the overall housing market and drawn the pain out as long as it has.

 

 

Credit World Savings for creating the monster that has truly eaten away household wealth.

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veracious
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Re: Confidential Federal Audits Accuse Five Biggest Mortgage Firms Of Defrauding Taxpayers

Thanks,  PhillyGuy215, you presented some informative comments about the crisis.

 

One thing I didn't understand though was that I thought you were saying that the Big Banks

weren't  entirely responsible for the wizardry and tomfoolery that got us into thjis situation?

 

I see that consumers were greedy but who allowed the vulnerable/guilty consumers to purchase the homes?.

 

 

 

 

 

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