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hahayepyep
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Car loan mess

After getting my personal finances in order over the last year, I'm trying to help out my family wherever I can.  My step-sister worked herself into a bind and came to me for advice (since these days all I talk about it credit, lol).  I want to see what people here think, so here's the situation:

 

Car: 2007 Honda Ridgeline in need of cosmetic body work and has been poorly maintained, however runs just fine, ~85k miles

Car loan balance: $10k ($350/mo 7%)

 

Complications: This car is in her and her mother's name, the loan in solely in her mother's name.  The mother "gifted" the car/loan to step-sister/husband a few years ago and now step-sister is divorced.  Mother wants out from the car completely and fast as she thinks it's hurting her credit (a bit of a falling out between them is fueling this, too).  Step sister also does not want this car anymore if at all possible and would like to sell/trade it in for something with better fuel economy.  Mother isn't really able to help financially and wants step-sister to come up with a plan.  Step sister has no issue accepting that the car is her full responsibility now as that was the original agreement.  Anyhow:

 

Options she came to me with:

  1. Her idea: She'd love to trade it in, but doubts she'd be able to trade in a car with a $10k loan against it that's in rough shape (I googled NADA trad-in value: about $8/9K on the bottom end).  I'm not car finance savvy at all (I drive beaters and pay cash, lol).  Would a dealer even touch a deal like that?!
  2. Mother's idea: Try to refinance the car in her name, get it fixed up, and keep it (which may end up costing a few thousand from what I can tell).  This is also her least favorite option as she really wants to just be rid of the car and start over.
  3. Her "bright" idea: She confirmed that she is able to secure a personal loan from her bank for the balance of the car loan and can just buy her mother out.  She'd then own it outright and would do what minimum repairs she had to to sell it and hopefully recoup as much of that buy-out as possible to pay off the personal loan and start over with a car loan on a new/used car she wants.  She even said she'd be ok loosing a little money just to be done with it.  This plan sounds flawed at best to me, but maybe I'm wrong?

Which of these is even possible, let alone a good idea?  Her income and credit would support all three options, but what is the cleanest way out of this mess and best for overall credit health given she's hell-bent on not owning this car anymore?

 

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Shogun
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Re: Car loan mess

If she can refinance the vehicle and get the mother's name off of it, that's the way to go.  Then she could do what she wants with the vehicle.

 

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hahayepyep
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Re: Car loan mess

Thanks, that's what I think, too.

 

She keeps asking me if she should try to trade it in.  Anyone know the likelihood of a dealer touching a car with a $10k loan against it when it's under water?  She'd really have to take it in to be evaluated to know how much under, but from what I can gather it's probably $2k under water.  I've never dealt with trade-ins before let alone such a complicated one.

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kayvee_
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Re: Car loan mess

depends on the dealer/financer  i had underwater $3k on my old car but since it was a repeat customer they most likely took the chance on me for upgrading. I had a $15K loan against my old car. 


@hahayepyep wrote:

Thanks, that's what I think, too.

 

She keeps asking me if she should try to trade it in.  Anyone know the likelihood of a dealer touching a car with a $10k loan against it when it's under water?  She'd really have to take it in to be evaluated to know how much under, but from what I can gather it's probably $2k under water.  I've never dealt with trade-ins before let alone such a complicated one.


 

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awp317
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Re: Car loan mess

A dealer will do anything to make a sale. If her credit is ok she should be able to just roll the difference in negitive equity into the new loan. Or apply a higher down payment to make up for the difference. Just drive up to a dealer and ask, for real. ITs that easy, Dont be intimidated by them and dont be afraid to ask for more than owed on the trade when negotiating. 

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rootpooty
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Re: Car loan mess

I would be prepared to put whatever cash difference down that your upside down on.  Depending on credit one could easily get a brand new fuel efficient entry level sedan for 350 per month however its not a good idea to roll the negative equity into the new loan cause then after a year or 2 if she wants to trade it in shes going to be in an even bigger hole with the loan.

 

Also just some friendly advice.  Dont go to a dealer looking desperate to get out of the loan.  They will eat that up.

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