04-04-2011 05:14 PM - edited 04-04-2011 05:18 PM
Does anyone have a Dancerat letter for an OC? I see them for collection agencies but I want to use this approach. I have two situations:
US Bank LOC, EQ reporting completely clean, EX and TU are reporting many lates, which is technically true but they aren't reporting the same. TU is showing more lates as well as showing 120's on several occassions where EX shows 90's or even paid on time. I have no clue how much is actually 90 late or not. My point is, its not accurate, its a closed paid account, they shouldn't have the rights to pull my file anymore right? I dont have any accounts with them anymore. Can I take this approach?
"You aren't reporting correctly to the CRA's, please fix or delete." Without providing them which information is mis-reported. Its an account that I've had since 2004 that was in generally good standing until 2010. Do I have to show financial hardship because of these effects in order to win a court case if they decided to take me there? Can I argue the accuracy even if it is more negative? I would think that they should be required to report accurately so that I can look and be able to compare that to my records to see what I should spend my time and money arguing or not arguing. Mis-reporting can lead me to believe they have a lack of understanding about my account and does not assure me that they are reporting anything accurately at all. This isn't just one instance, in one year there are probably 5 differences in my CRA's information.
Also, would it be okay to send this letter to them while there is a regular Validation/verify dispute in the works?
I have another account with Portfolio Recovery Associates that is being reported (After a dispute) as an open collection on my EX. It has no balance listed, its a blank field it doesn't even say $0.00 since its a paid account.
Can I use a Dancerat letter here as well since it is being reported inaccurately?
04-04-2011 07:50 PM
doublespaces wrote:US Bank LOC, EQ reporting completely clean, EX and TU are reporting many lates, which is technically true but they aren't reporting the same. TU is showing more lates as well as showing 120's on several occassions where EX shows 90's or even paid on time. I have no clue how much is actually 90 late or not. My point is, its not accurate, its a closed paid account, they shouldn't have the rights to pull my file anymore right? I dont have any accounts with them anymore. Can I take this approach?
Sometimes OCs will misreport in your favor. If concerned about the late placement (certainly a valid concern), call them up and ask for a copy of your payment history. Then cross-reference and if reporting incorrectly and not reporting in your favor, then GW them asking for a deletion all the while pointing out their error.
doublespaces wrote:I have another account with Portfolio Recovery Associates that is being reported (After a dispute) as an open collection on my EX. It has no balance listed, its a blank field it doesn't even say $0.00 since its a paid account.
Send a GW asking for deletion. Score-wise, it doesn't matter if they report a $0 bal. or not and it doesn't matter if they report open or closed.
04-04-2011 11:17 PM
04-05-2011 05:22 PM - edited 04-05-2011 05:37 PM
Thanks for that... Is it illegal to bluff them hypotethically? If I didn't know if it was right or not can I use this position? Say if I sent someone a letter saying they are reporting inaccurately and they are or aren't, does that have any implications for me?
Also, when I look at my reports, I have two collections agencies reporting my account. both accounts are listed under "Collections" on one CRA, but the same company is reporting my account differently to other CRA's. They show "Open" and when I click the show details the collections has the "24 month payment history" at the bottom as if its a regular account. Its not listed under Installment but its listed under negative accounts(equifax complete) instead of collections. Are they required to list under collections?
04-05-2011 06:10 PM - edited 04-05-2011 06:11 PM
04-05-2011 07:02 PM
What I'm saying is, if it is not being reported as a collection, but instead as an account with a payment history legend attached to it and therefore looks like a new line of credit would this be inaccurate reporting? Considering this is a collection and not the OC trade line, isn't that inaccurate even if its not listed as a revolving account or installment?
My meaning is, I don't know if this is accurate or not, but using a letter stating that it isn't, negligence be damned, would there be any potential implications for me. I'm not intending on doing anything wrong, but I will take an approach if I can, just saying my knowledge behind it may not be 100% accurate. If its not, thats what a dispute is for right? If I don't think its right, I dispute it, if it turns out right, then thats the end of the dispute. Two people arguing over a matter can be a dispute, correct? If its not reported as a collection but as another type of account with the potential to hurt me or coerce me into making payments by threatening to 'report me' to the CRAs as late payments, an option that shouldn't be allowed on a collection, wouldn't this constitute inaccurate reporting among other things? Listing an collection account as anything other than a collection account would be inaccurate, no? And by challenging this inaccuracy, depending on the outcome, would I be responsible for that stance if it turns out to be accurate reporting and I'm wrong.
Thanks!
04-05-2011 10:31 PM
You are correct. A collection account being incorrectly reported as an open trade line with current lates and not a collection account is not allowed. If you still owe money on the account, I would attempt a PFD. If you do not owe money, using a variation of the above letter would work to encourage them to remove the account. That being said, if you dispute it directly with the collection agency I recommend having a current copy of your credit report beforehand just in case they change the reporting. This will give you leverage if you follow through with a lawsuit and pursue action against them.
04-05-2011 11:49 PM
Thank you very much for your reply.
The TL doesn't have any lates, but one of my collections doesn't have the 24 month payment history at all, but th is one has it but no data reported since I paid them off immediately. They warned me they would report me to the CRA's and considering the way they were reported the probably had the ability to since the mis-reported them as an 'other' account instead of a collection. Do I have anything worth arguing over?
04-05-2011 11:58 PM
That may be better answered by others on here. I am not sure what the "other" account type includes. Im sure some people on here do though!
06-01-2011 11:15 AM
I have something of substance now. A CA isn't allowed to report to the CRA any lates? Well I have this. Tell me if this counts? Think I can get them to delete?


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