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Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure

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What makes a PLUS score. Thought that was interesting...




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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure

Did they include this statement from EX?

 

Calculated on the PLUS Score model, your Experian Credit Score indicates your relative credit risk level for educational purposes and is not the score used by lenders.

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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure


MarineVietVet wrote:

Did they include this statement from EX?

 

Calculated on the PLUS Score model, your Experian Credit Score indicates your relative credit risk level for educational purposes and is not the score used by lenders.


Didnt see that anywhere on there...




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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure

It's near the bottom of the first page of the EX website.

 

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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure

I think the disclaimer is part of the settlement with the government over advertising of "credit scores". I don't believe it means lenders can't use PLUS scores. In fact, I bet EX would love their proprietary model to gain more traction with lenders.
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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure


ctb89 wrote:
I think the disclaimer is part of the settlement with the government over advertising of "credit scores". I don't believe it means lenders can't use PLUS scores. In fact, I bet EX would love their proprietary model to gain more traction with lenders.

I agree that it doesn't prevent lenders from using PLUS scores but it also clearly says that lenders DO NOT use the PLUS score.

 

Therefore the PLUS score is useless.

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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure

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MarineVietVet wrote:

ctb89 wrote:
I think the disclaimer is part of the settlement with the government over advertising of "credit scores". I don't believe it means lenders can't use PLUS scores. In fact, I bet EX would love their proprietary model to gain more traction with lenders.

I agree that it doesn't prevent lenders from using PLUS scores but it also clearly says that lenders DO NOT use the PLUS score.

 

Therefore the PLUS score is useless.


Prosper (online loan service) uses a form of PLUS score to make loan decisions. Thats the only one I know about that uses it.




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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure

Prosper uses a ScoreX Plus which is much different from PLUS. I recently applied at Prosper and decided to pull my PLUS the same day. My ScoreX Plus was 60 points higher than PLUS.

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llecs wrote:

Prosper uses a ScoreX Plus which is much different from PLUS. I recently applied at Prosper and decided to pull my PLUS the same day. My ScoreX Plus was 60 points higher than PLUS.


That is true, its a version of EX PLUS.




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Re: Interesting find on EX PLUS scores from AMEX creditsecure

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LS2982 wrote:

llecs wrote:

Prosper uses a ScoreX Plus which is much different from PLUS. I recently applied at Prosper and decided to pull my PLUS the same day. My ScoreX Plus was 60 points higher than PLUS.


That is true, its a version of EX PLUS.


Interesting; I know Prosper has been on-again / off-again from a credit reporting perspective, but if they're using the scores does this mean they're now back to reporting to at least EX?

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