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kyoung3633
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Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.

I just recently paid off a collection account and my score dropped a couple points. Can some one explain to me why even paying off the debt is counting against me. Don't understand that one, I realize the debt stays on credit for the duration of 7yrs, I am OK with that but paying it off counting against me is crazy.

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FrugalRican
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.

I think there's a piece of information missing here.

Did you pay it off and it got deleted... or did you only pay it off completely and it is still there?

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Walt_K
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.

Paying collections is not supposed to affect scoring.  A collection is scored the same whether it is paid or unpaid.  There are reports of people paying collections and the CA and/or CRA screwing  up how it is coded and reaging the collection causing the score to drop, but that usually results in a large drop.  If you saw a few point change, it's probably not related to your collection. 


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kyoung3633
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.

It was related to the account, i belong to score alert so any time a change is made it shows the account and why, the only thing i saw was the account in question and the dollar amount showing zero

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kyoung3633
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.

No it did not get deleted, when i received the credit score alert letting me know a change was made i checked and it showed the account and the zero balance.

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FrugalRican
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.

Then it wasn't the "pay-off" that knocked your score.

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Walt_K
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.


@kyoung3633 wrote:

It was related to the account, i belong to score alert so any time a change is made it shows the account and why, the only thing i saw was the account in question and the dollar amount showing zero



ScoreWatch doesn't always get the reason correct.  There are several threads discussing this.

 

How many points did you lose?  Are you sure there were no other changes? 


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MamboItaliano
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.

It is and always has been my understanding that if you pay off a collection, it changes the DOLA. When the DOLA  is updated on a negative, it makes it a more severe hit against your score. This doesn't change your falloff date, but does hurt your current credit more.

 

At least, that was my understanding. Are you guys suggesting I am wrong? 

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MarineVietVet
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.


@MamboItaliano wrote:

It is and always has been my understanding that if you pay off a collection, it changes the DOLA. When the DOLA  is updated on a negative, it makes it a more severe hit against your score. This doesn't change your falloff date, but does hurt your current credit more.

 

At least, that was my understanding. Are you guys suggesting I am wrong? 


Collections are scored off the date of assignment and nothing else. But the CA's and CRA's have to do all the coding correctly and that's where it goes wrong sometimes .

 

Again I'll say a change on DoLA is not supposed to have an effect.

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Anonymous
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Re: Score goes down realize when you pay off a collection debt.


@MamboItaliano wrote:

It is and always has been my understanding that if you pay off a collection, it changes the DOLA. When the DOLA  is updated on a negative, it makes it a more severe hit against your score. This doesn't change your falloff date, but does hurt your current credit more.

 

At least, that was my understanding. Are you guys suggesting I am wrong? 



Actually, I think you are right on the money.  I am helping a friend with her credit and, this has been exactly what's happened in her case. Every time that DOLA changes it makes a difference, to the negative.  Maybe, as Marine said, its not supposed to but, with my friend's FICO®, it definitely has made a difference.

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