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What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

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What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

I haven't really thought about this. I saved up some money to hold me over for many months but lets say someone goes in to the hospital and can't work. They probably need to plan an unexpected event to save there credit just in case something happens one day.

I think most people are living paycheck to paycheck and this is almost not possible. So what does someone do when they are out of work, hungry and have bills to pay. Do they use the credit knowing they won't be able to pay it back or live on the street.

I was hoping this thread could help prepare and teach people to be prepared. Maybe someone who went through this (many of us have) could tell us what they would have done differently to prevent credit meltdown. Thank you.
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fishbjc
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

We have insurance through dh's company that would pay for this type of emergency.   We also have access to a safety deposit box with almost 100k in it, so we would be fine.  Thanks MIL!
 
 
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MattH
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.



@Anonymous wrote:
I haven't really thought about this. I saved up some money to hold me over for many months but lets say someone goes in to the hospital and can't work. They probably need to plan an unexpected event to save there credit just in case something happens one day.

I think most people are living paycheck to paycheck and this is almost not possible. So what does someone do when they are out of work, hungry and have bills to pay. Do they use the credit knowing they won't be able to pay it back or live on the street.

I was hoping this thread could help prepare and teach people to be prepared. Maybe someone who went through this (many of us have) could tell us what they would have done differently to prevent credit meltdown. Thank you.




Well, that would depend greatly on the person's circumstances. I have read that MANY bankruptcies result in part from medical bills and/or income loss due to illness. I am multiply fortunate because (1) I haven't had major health issues and (2) my employer offers excellent insurance of multiple types: life, health, disability, and long-term care. However, folks whose employers don't offer such coverage may be at tremendous risk because such extensive coverage can be difficult to obtain and very expensive to obtain as an individual.

I know of people with chronic illnesses who stay in jobs they dislike at governments or big companies only because they must have the group health insurance.

One possible option for those whose employers don't offer good insurance may be to join a professional organization that offers group insurance plans for its members. But anybody considering such a policy must have a lawyer or certified financial planner read the fine print very carefully: cheap insurance that won't cover what one needs is worthless! For instance, my grandmother had a long-term care policy that required a 30-day hospital stay before going into a nursing home; of course it proved impossible to make the hospital keep her long enough to qualify so that policy was worth zilch. Fortunately, the Catholic Home where she had lived for many years in the "independent living" section before moving to the nursing home section was willing and able to absorb the cost difference between what Medicaid paid and their actual costs, so she got excellent care until her death at the age of 103 about 15 years ago.
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Anonymous
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

We were faced with this... sort of... on December 6 2007, when DH was diagnosed with a golfball-sized brain tumor. He is in the military, so his pay was not affected, but I quit work at the moment he told me, so our income was cut basically in half. And, with five kids on the payroll, that income being cut in half was so astronomically major!
 
1. We have two new autos, both bought last summer. With both autos I opted for the insurance that will pay the payments for up to 18 months if you're out of employment. And I don't mean, they'll tack the pmts on to the end of the loan, I mean they will pay the payment entirely and you won't have to think about it ever again. It was only like $15/mo... I called up immediately to set that in action.
BUT It was a no-go, because the policy only applies to the primary on each vehicle, which is DH,. If HE lost his job, pmts would be covered, but since it was ME who quit, it was not covered.
HOWEVER, we kept in constant contact with our credit union, who we financed through, and they took notes the entire time as to our situation. It took about a month and a half for the insurance company to finally confirm that we wouldn't be covered, so by the time that came through we were about 45 days behind in payments. BUT because we had been in constant contact & they knew the situation, we were not given a 30-day late on EITHER vehicle.
LESSON: The MOMENT trouble starts brewing, contact your creditors!
 
2. We mobilized our family, our church, my daughter's teacher/PTA and anyone who might be willing to help. The result was Visa giftcards to cover groceries, PTA moms cooking for us two nights a week while I was ferrying DH back and forth 180 miles/day for rehab, and countless grocery gift cards to help w/ groceries.
 
3. After about a month, when we realized that the magic surgery he had wouldn't have him "back in action in about two weeks" as his neurosurgeon said, I immediately began downsizing. What could we cut out in our lives??? The biggest thing was RENT and GAS.
a. We were paying $1700/mo for an amazing home in a gated community w/ polished travertine floors, granite in kitchen & bathrooms, granite inlays in the polished travertine,... the works. I was totally selfish and did NOT want to give the house up. We'd lived there a year and a half and sadly, that's the longest I had lived anywhere since I was 18. But, I bit the bullet and knew our longterm financial picture was more important than a house I loved started looking for a house in our town that was cheap, that we could afford on one income.
b. We were driving about 180 miles/day to get DH to his rehab & specialists. Again, it only made sense to move. Even though it was mid-Jan and DD was in the middle of a GREAT school year, I really wrestled with how this would impact her. After a few days of wondering whether I was sentencing her to a lifetime of therapy by moving in the middle of the year, my Mom and her teacher told me to get a grip -- kids are resilient and life happens. So, the search for a cheap hovel moved from where we were living in Temecula to the towns surrounding DH's rehab program & hospital program.
LESSON: Don't be afraid to make big decisions. Do what you gotta do. Kids will bounce back. YOU will bounce back. Anyone that tells you your child is destined for an attachment disorder because you had to downsize your life suddenly and that included a move, is full of hooey.
 
4. Sell sell sell. In the move, I went through the kid's clothing and got rid of EVERYTHING I could. Ditto for toys. We made a little profit, only $100 or so, but when your income plummets like ours did, it is GREAT.
 
5. Again, call on your friends & neighbors. When I found the new place, a 2-br townhouse for $1095/mo, only 20 minutes from DH's rehab, I called up Dh's work and asked them to get together about 5 men to help me move. DH was still using a walker at that point, and although he was awake, his brain was basically shut off and he was in lalaland, so I needed help to move. They ended up with 12 volunteers. People WANT to help you! They moved everything for us.
 
6. Don't start doing creative financing. It will mean lots of hotdogs and ramen noodles and baked beans, but PAY YOUR BILLS. Those that you can't negotiate a lower payment for, don't dismiss them! Pay them anyway.
 
7. Keep on keeping in touch with your creditors! Twice, our cell phone bill has gone 150-200minutes over our 2100 minute plan. This was due to me calling DH's monstrous family plus mine to keep them all in the loop when he was in hospital, etc. I called Verizon & the first time, they removed the overlimit entirely b/c of the situation. The second time, they split it with me so I only had to pay $75 over the regular bill instead of $150.
 
8. RENTER'S INSURANCE!!! I got it because I was worried about forest fires or an earthquake destroying my beautiful antiques, but guess what?? It ALSO has a clause that covers a degree of lost wages. THAT was a lifesaver.
LESSON: All those goofy insurance options you can get, that you think you'll never use, like GAP on your car, employment ins for your car, renter's insurance... GET THEM. You NEVER know what life will give you. Three years ago when we married, I never imagined my husband had a brain tumor festering, and by that point they estimate the darn thing had already been growing for a good 4 years.
 
 
The BIGGEST lesson we have learned from this, and i am SO glad to have learned it at 25, instead of at 55... STRUCTURE YOUR LIFE AROUND ONE INCOME. If you both work, and you structure your life so that BOTH incomes are needed to cover your bottom line: car pmts,. cc's, house, food, phones... should ALL be such that one income can cover them. The other person's income should be FUN money.. cable, XM radio, eating out, retirement, savings... If you can't fit all your major bill payments into one income, then you are living beyond your means. I though we were living within our means, because we paid all our bills on both incomes with a bit of fun money left over each month. We were living the American dream! We looked like everyone else in the neighborhood -- two nearly-new cars, blah blah. Now I've learned that is NOT living within your means. It's actually overextending yourself because there's NO wiggle room.
 
We now realize that on two incomes, with five kids on the roster, we can only afford a 2-br townhouse in one of the neighborhoods that others would feel was "outside their cultural boundaries". Money-wise, we could afford the fantastic house we were living in, but we were walking a tightrope we didn't even know was there until we fell off.. if we weren't paying $950/mo for our two beautiful shiny vehicles, we could probably have a bit nicer house. But we have been humbled and we now know what we can TRULY afford.
 
 
As for having only one income and losing that one income... I can only offer what I think would work: All the above-mentioned insurances, plus socking away at least half of what you would need for your bottom-line bills each month into savings.
 
We're moving on, and DH is getting better.. he retires in October, and if he doesn't have a job immediately, I know we'll be ok for a bit because we have that insurance covering our car payments for up to a year Smiley Happy
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

Also want to add...
If your are in crisis because of a medical situation, take full advantage of the social workers & case workers at the hospital,. You may have to track them down, and don't expect them to become the greatest champion for your cause. But they have a wealth of information, know of all kinds of contacts & programs in the community & if you go to them, they will give you all kinds of help.
We have three social workers helping us at three different hospitals... one at the hospital where DH's neurologist works, one at the hospital where his rehab program is based, and one at the hospital where he had his surgery & his neurosurgeon works. They all three have different sources and different knowledge that has been helpful for us.
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MattH
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

Yikes! My wife and I will absolutely keep your family in our prayers!
TU 791 02/11/2013, EQ 800 1/29/2011 , EX Plus FAKO 812, EX Vantage Score 955 3/19/2010 wife's EQ 9/23/2009 803
EX always was my highest when we could pull all three
Always remember: big print giveth, small print taketh away
If you dunno what tanstaafl means you must Google it
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Anonymous
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

There are so many options.  Assuming you are a normal person with great credit, and lots of bills, a few things to do (or all) are:
 
- Request limit increases on all credit cards.  Although many recommened against piling on more debt, hey, let's face it, it's MUCH better to charge up more debt than to default on cards with low limits and ruin your credit completely.  Either way, at the end of it, you're gonna end up paying a lot more to make up for the incident
 
-  Refinance/take out a home equity loan.  I can buy you some time to get yourself back on track, and the loan can essentially can pay for itself
 
- Take out a personal loan.  Many recommend against this, but, I think that if you've got an okay amount in savings, take out a huge personal loan, and make absolute MINIMUM payments on everything, that could buy you a bit of time.  Be very careful not to get carried away with this, though...you'd have to be very well disciplined
 
-  Downsize where you can.  Assuming you have equity, get rid of those car payments and  use the cash for an inexpensive used car (just temporarily, if you desire).  Move out of the fancy home and settle for something more affordable.  Have a yard sell/flea market and get rid of extra items you've got sitting around
 
-  Call all your creditors IMMEDIATELY, tell them about your situation, and ask if you can make "interest only" payments on everything; they will often do this for a few months.  Also, remind them about your great relationship, let them know you intend to pay them their money, and request that they not ruin your credit files with latenesses
 
-  On smaller debts, see if you can somehow negotiate a settlement on them to pay off.  Even while in good condition, you can kinda scare the creditor by telling them about your situation and that you may have to file bankruptcy very soon, and you wanted to do the ethical thing by trying to pay them if you could.  It just may work
 
-  If you're in a situation where you absolutely do not have enough money to survive another month of paying bills, etc.. I recommend filing bankruptcy IMMEDIATELY.  Do not wait until you've already charged off everything, you're already broke, etc.  If you see disaster ahead and few of the other options will work, the sooner you file bankruptcy, the better.  I've reviewed thousands of credit files, and those I've seen who filed bankruptcy early still had reasonably high credit scores, while those who charged off everything, then filed bankruptcy (which I recommend against) were screwed both times. 
 
-  Consider moving in with family/friends temporarily; it is an excellent way to save money.
 
These are a few off the top of my head.  By the way, to the person who mentioned the $1700 rent in a lavish neighborhood...I'd love to know where you are?  Here in the DC area, it's very hard to find anything in that range.  A good rent is about $1700 while many here pay a few thousand monthly.  The housing market here is crazy.  I have a friend with a $6000 mortgage!  Must be nice to live in an area as such...I suppose that would be another recommendation of mine; consider moving to an area where the cost of living is not so high!
 
 
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Dawn
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

ivyalmighty ...
 
Your story is heart wrenching and one of those that has got to bring hope to others.  Your success and the advice you offer displays wisdom beyond your years and I hope that others are motivated by what can be done when it has to be done. 
 
One of the things that saved our necks when my husband lost his job about 8 years ago was something you touched on as well.  After I first became pregnant many years ago, and we had decided that I would stay home after the baby was born, we made a decision to scale down to depend on his income alone.  We socked away most of my income for at least six months and had a reasonable nest egg from the beginning.
 
When he lost his job (that he had every reason to assume he would eventually retire from,) I was able to supplement his unemployment and subsequent low-paying contract jobs with the income I earned when I returned to work.
 
We are on even ground again ... but things could have been worse if we had previously lived beyond our means.  It's not always an easy choice to make ... and not always a possible choice for others ...  but it worked for us and hopefully can and will work for others as well.
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Anonymous
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

Stevie,
We lived in Temecula, CA. The owner's monthly pmt was $1700/mo in 2006, when we moved in.. by the time we moved out, their pmt had increased to $3500/mo, because they were self-made victims of the mortgage boom. The house is only 1300 sq ft, 3br, but they went all-out in renovating.
 
 
 
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Anonymous
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Re: What should someone do if a life changing event happens and then no income.

Ivyalmight,
 
Wow, okay, now that makes more sense to me.  I'm not really familiar with that area of Ca.  This mortgage thing here in our country is crazy, eh?  For a house that size and at that rate monthly, is high, but unfortuantely, is what many folks here are paying for simple, no frills, homes.
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