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esg
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

Yah. That's such a bummer. I am in a similiar situation as my sale is due to close in the first few days of December which means a November payment too!! Grrr. I wish some one could tell me what the impact was on their score after staying current throughout the short sale. I just don't know anyone who has done it. I am convinced that the damage is from the late payments. I learned in an article on "how banks report short sales" that the banks really don't have a place to specify "short sale" and the comment or status of "settled for less than owed" is not what hits your score. A close friend of mine got "paid as agreed" for his short sale and it appears the drop is in score is ONLY from the lates.

 

My issue is I can scrape together October (painfully), but I know November will be really difficult financially for me to pay. I have asked my ex to pitch in for November, but he does not want to "throw away" any more money, as he's out of work. I wonder about the difference between a 30 day and a 60 day late. I suspect it's not huge. It's all or nothing for me at this point. I still have two days to decide what to do. I can pay October and proay my escrow closes before Nov. 30. Or just take the 60 day hit and work on re-building over the next few years.

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UplandCitizen
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

FYI, BoA told me that the payment had to be made by 10/30 to avoid a 30 day late.  I know October has 31 days so in order to avoid a 30 day late, payment would probably have to be made by tomorrow. 

 

I just saw the article again about late payments posted in one of the forums.  30 day late = 100 point decline on a high 700 score.   Debt settlement = 100 to 110 decline.  If you do both almost 200 point decline. 

EQ: 806 (10/10/2012)
TU: 811 (11/25/2012)

After Short Sale 11/20/12:
EQ: 694 (12/1/2012)
TU: 677 (12/5/2012)
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esg
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

Chase told me this morning tha 8pm EST online payment on the 31st is the deadline, but i see your point about the 30 day thing. What's interesting is my friend went through an aweful divorce and TWO short sales. One of them went on for almost a year where no payments were made. The other one about 6 months. His score went from the mid 700's to 620. (120 point drop for two short sales, and over 120+ days delinquent). This tell me that the scoring system is simply a mystery! ??? All I can be sure of is that late payments hurt.

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esg
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

Ok, that was painful! I just emptied my bank account and made one last payment! Ouch. I sure hope it's worth it. Now I am pushing agents to close before November 30th. Wish me luck, and be sure to update me after you close and let me know how it turns out for you.

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UplandCitizen
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

I feel your pain.  My wife is so dissappointed that we just had to pay the mortgage, especially, since we are paying rent on a new home.  She probably would have preferred that we miss the payment.  Hope this pays off.

EQ: 806 (10/10/2012)
TU: 811 (11/25/2012)

After Short Sale 11/20/12:
EQ: 694 (12/1/2012)
TU: 677 (12/5/2012)
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UplandCitizen
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

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I found a link to how late payments and then short sales affect credit.   If you notice a 30 day late has almost as much affect on credit as a short sale.   So, if you get a 30 day late than get a short sale, start at the 680 score to see the affect.

 

 

 

 


http://bankinganalyticsblog.fico.com/2011/03/research-looks-at-how-mortgage-delinquencies-affect-sco...

 

 

 

 

 

EQ: 806 (10/10/2012)
TU: 811 (11/25/2012)

After Short Sale 11/20/12:
EQ: 694 (12/1/2012)
TU: 677 (12/5/2012)
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esg
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

Yah, I've seen this chart a few times. I wasn't clear if it was cummulative or not. Like if you miss a payment, your score drops to 620, then you have a short sale and it's affected less because your score is already lower?? It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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UplandCitizen
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

I don't think the chart is cummulative.  For, example if you have a 780 and get a 30 day late it goes to approximately 680.  If you have a 780 and have  short sale without any lates is goes to approx. 660. 

 

However, if you have a 780 and then have a 30 day late it goes approximately 680.  Then if you have a short sale, you start at the 680 range and it goes down approximately 620. 

 

The affect would be that if you do not have any late payment before a short sale (with a start of 780), you essentially have a score of 660 which I believe immediately qualifies for an FHA loan. 

 

Am I right?

EQ: 806 (10/10/2012)
TU: 811 (11/25/2012)

After Short Sale 11/20/12:
EQ: 694 (12/1/2012)
TU: 677 (12/5/2012)
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jnkp2001
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

Sounds good to me.  I believe the moral here is, make payments no matter how painful they are!:smileymad::smileysad:  

 

It shows you are still in the fight instead of just giving up. You will be better off in the long run. Hang in there!:smileyhappy:

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lender pulled 11/3/12 EQ 661 TU 650 EX598
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esg
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Re: 2012 (current info) on the impact of a short sale without late payments.

I agree. The affect on fico score from a short sale with no lates is still an unknown, but what is known is that lates will cause a huge drop. At least I can say I tried. :smileyhappy:

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