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I have pulled the trigger. Had my credit checked and got a prequal letter. I have looked at 8 homes so far and will be looking at another 3 tomorrow. Anyone else looking, close to closing or close as yet with the short deadline that we have. FYI my lender says I need to have everything wrapped up by 9/12. Anyone know what to do if the case number I receive falls throught AFTER 9/14 due to inspection or anything quirkly? Will I just be SOL?
Godspeed to all!
@Anonymous wrote:Back again.
I have pulled the trigger. Had my credit checked and got a prequal letter. I have looked at 8 homes so far and will be looking at another 3 tomorrow. Anyone else looking, close to closing or close as yet with the short deadline that we have. FYI my lender says I need to have everything wrapped up by 9/12. Anyone know what to do if the case number I receive falls throught AFTER 9/14 due to inspection or anything quirkly? Will I just be SOL?
Godspeed to all!
Date is based on obtaining an FHA case number. Case number can be ordered as soon as you have a contract regardless of inspection or anything else.
So this new rule totally screwed us over today. our loan officer didnt know about it and we got our contract signed yesterday, had we known in advance we would have done it on sunday.
Does anyone know if we put 1 of our many student loans into repayment, could that then be used as the number for the debt to ratio? Our loans are in defferment, and we will be on IBR. However our servicer which is the William D. Ford program, they will not issue a statement estimating our future payment. They offered a 3 way conference call but nothing in writing. So i am wondering if we put one of our loans into repayment, can that be used as the required monthly payment
@Anonymous wrote:So this new rule totally screwed us over today. our loan officer didnt know about it and we got our contract signed yesterday, had we known in advance we would have done it on sunday.
Does anyone know if we put 1 of our many student loans into repayment, could that then be used as the number for the debt to ratio? Our loans are in defferment, and we will be on IBR. However our servicer which is the William D. Ford program, they will not issue a statement estimating our future payment. They offered a 3 way conference call but nothing in writing. So i am wondering if we put one of our loans into repayment, can that be used as the required monthly payment
Yes, look into graduated repayment. Starts off with a lower payment and gradually increases. For the loan's sake, you can use the low starting payment. If IBR will give you a payment other than 0, that will work too.
We do qualify for IBR, th eissue is timing. It will take the student loan department 30-60 days, and based on past experience , 60 days to certify the new payment type. If we just take one of our smaller loans and come out of defferment for it , it would generate a bill almost immediatly. We had IBR a few years ago but went back to school so went to defferement for past two years already. to Recert and request the new IBR it would take longer , potentially causing us to loose the house .
@Anonymous wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:So this new rule totally screwed us over today. our loan officer didnt know about it and we got our contract signed yesterday, had we known in advance we would have done it on sunday.
Does anyone know if we put 1 of our many student loans into repayment, could that then be used as the number for the debt to ratio? Our loans are in defferment, and we will be on IBR. However our servicer which is the William D. Ford program, they will not issue a statement estimating our future payment. They offered a 3 way conference call but nothing in writing. So i am wondering if we put one of our loans into repayment, can that be used as the required monthly payment
Yes, look into graduated repayment. Starts off with a lower payment and gradually increases. For the loan's sake, you can use the low starting payment. If IBR will give you a payment other than 0, that will work too.
Whats crazy is that USDA is totally different or FHA has grey area . USDA handbook is they need a loan that has fixed payments that do not change. I really thought FHA would follow this dumb unrealistic track but as for now they seem to not do that which is good.
Here it is on page 233 of the USDA HB-1-3555 handbook.
Student loans. Lenders must include the greater of one percent of the outstanding loan balance or the verified fixed payment as reflected on the credit report. Exception: Monthly payment amounts listed on the credit report, which are less than one percent of the outstanding balance may be used when evidence from the loan servicer is obtained indicating; 1)the applicant is on a fixed repayment plan not subject to change under the terms of the current agreement and 2) and the monthly payment amount due. Fixed payments have a monthly amount that is not subject to change through the fixed repayment time frame. Income Based Repayment (IBR) plans, graduated plans, adjustable rates, interest only and deferred plans are examples of repayment plans that are subject to change and do not qualify for the exception. No additional documentation is required if a credit report is obtained and the lender can confirm the payment represented is a fixed payment as noted in this paragraph.
FHA's rule states
4) Calculation of Monthly ObligationThe Mortgagee must use the actual monthly payment to be paid on a deferred liability, whenever available.If the actual monthly payment is not available for installment debt, the Mortgagee must utilize the terms of the debt or 5 percent of the outstanding balance to establish the monthly payment.For a student loan, if the actual monthly payment is zero or is not available, the Mortgagee must utilize 2 percent of the outstanding balance to establish the monthly payment.
So it seems as of now FHA is still more lenient if you can get the cheapest payment possible that is greater than zero you are ok. Which is dumb as you can get a 1 dollar payment and still qualify.
Bottom line is neither wants to see deferred or a zero IBR payment.
Edit: Yep CreditGuy, FHA does not require that student loan payment remain fixed. Or at least there is no specific verbiage in the guidelines.
Question, I started building a home back in May and I am closing on October 12th, my lender gave the builder my commitment letter back when they started and I have already paid the down payment. I have quite a bit of student loans from my doctorate, since I already have a commitment letter and everything will this new rule change apply to me in regards to student loans?
I would think if you can have your student loan servicer provide a letter stating what your payment will be, that will suffice for a lender.