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well our deal fell thru. seller decided to be shady and change things last minute. Seller agent told my agent seller does not want to sell anymore and will do anything to cancel deal so we walked out. Good thing we found a better house and are set to close july 22nd
@SRob10 wrote:Finally after a denial during underwriting last year I am finally at a point where I can say I am confident about this mortgage process (not too confident of course). My information has been submitted to underwriting and I have a conditional approval. When I asked the lender about the conditions they stated it was internal and nothing was needed from me, anybody ever heard of this before? After lurking for over a year I think I'm ready to finally post here. I'm just happy I made it this far. Mortgage scores at time of application TU658, EQ668, EX688
Yes many banks have internal closing conditions that they have to process and it's actually a good thing. That means that everyting needed from you has been obtained and/or cleared. They need to do their thing internally.
Updated conditions from lender: verification of employment, invoice from home insurance, missing signature from explanation letter. They need to be done before closing on 6/22. Realtor says seller has finished making repairs. Just playing the waiting game now...
@Anonymous wrote:well our deal fell thru. seller decided to be shady and change things last minute. Seller agent told my agent seller does not want to sell anymore and will do anything to cancel deal so we walked out. Good thing we found a better house and are set to close july 22nd
Is there anything akin to buyer side escrow in the typical real estate transaction on the seller's part?
In looking through the documentation the title company sent me it appeared as though there might be, but I wouldn't have walked without my pound of flesh... that may just be my experiance as a first time homebuyer with a purchase agreement for a place with an unclear title but the seller just suddenly welshing, meh.
Glad you found a better house though!
@CS800 wrote:
@SRob10 wrote:Finally after a denial during underwriting last year I am finally at a point where I can say I am confident about this mortgage process (not too confident of course). My information has been submitted to underwriting and I have a conditional approval. When I asked the lender about the conditions they stated it was internal and nothing was needed from me, anybody ever heard of this before? After lurking for over a year I think I'm ready to finally post here. I'm just happy I made it this far. Mortgage scores at time of application TU658, EQ668, EX688
Yes many banks have internal closing conditions that they have to process and it's actually a good thing. That means that everyting needed from you has been obtained and/or cleared. They need to do their thing internally.
Ah interesting; a couple things like that showed up on my conditional approval letter (documenting any inquiries in the last 4 months) and when I asked my LO about it as I had zero inquiries within the last 120+ days, he said that one was for him to take care of. Guessing it was boilerplate and perhaps similar to what you're referring to?
@Revelate wrote:
@CS800 wrote:
@SRob10 wrote:Finally after a denial during underwriting last year I am finally at a point where I can say I am confident about this mortgage process (not too confident of course). My information has been submitted to underwriting and I have a conditional approval. When I asked the lender about the conditions they stated it was internal and nothing was needed from me, anybody ever heard of this before? After lurking for over a year I think I'm ready to finally post here. I'm just happy I made it this far. Mortgage scores at time of application TU658, EQ668, EX688
Yes many banks have internal closing conditions that they have to process and it's actually a good thing. That means that everyting needed from you has been obtained and/or cleared. They need to do their thing internally.
Ah interesting; a couple things like that showed up on my conditional approval letter (documenting any inquiries in the last 4 months) and when I asked my LO about it as I had zero inquiries within the last 120+ days, he said that one was for him to take care of. Guessing it was boilerplate and perhaps similar to what you're referring to?
Yes just like we have to submit papers/docs for UW to review and clear, banks have their own checklist that they need to do in order to make sure that all the paperworks are ready to be sent to the title company for closing.
Banks have 3 stages for a mortgage approval process:
- Application
- Conditional approval conditions
- Final Approval Conditions
Application:
You apply and send in W-2, paystubs, investment docs, driver's license etc.. and they upload to your file for to be submitted to UW
Conditional Approval:
Happens when UW has cleared all the conditions that you had tom meet that were classified under - conditional approval
Final Approval:
Once UW has cleared all conditional approval items, they move on to items that they classfied as required to be cleared for Final approval. They will ask more docs, need you sign sign letters of explanations etc
Once all final approval conditions are cleared, they review all the items one last time and do their internal things. Thenk send to title company to close.
@SRob10 wrote:
Thanks for responding CS800 these internal conditions suck. I feel like I have no control over the situation because they didn't ask for anything (which is crazy to complain about I know). I spoke with the LO Monday and he said 3-5 days so I'll call back Friday and bug him. I'm wishing everyone best wishes and I can't wait for this to be over so I can laugh about it. Lol 😯
I hear ya. You know you get used to being asked 100 docs and explanations then all of a sudden it goes blank and you're like 'waht's wrong ????'
The internal conditions are just the bank aligning the necessary docs on their end and making sure that everything is aligned with the docs you submitted so they can send to the title company for closing. Generally takes a few days. It's alike UW double checking themselves.
But once all your 'final conditions' have cleared with UW, you shouldn't stress on their internal conditions.
Take a breather amd sail to your closing date.
I don't see many June closers on here.
Home Location: Denver, CO
Purchase Price: $299k
Property type: Single family home, 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 2-car attached garage
Lender Name: Fairway Mortgage
Notes about Lender: They got it all done and very quickly, but communication was lackluster
Type of Loan: FHA
Approved on: 04-15-2015
Submitted Offer on: 05-08-2015
Ratified Contract on: 05-09-2014
Ernest Money Deposit: $4000
Inspection: 06-12-2015
Purchase contract addendums: After inspection objection, sellers replaced furnace and installed sump pump
Loan Rate: 4.5%
Survey Ordered:
Survey Completed:
Application submitted: -
Loan Processing: -
Appraisal Ordered: 05-20-2015
Appraisal Completed: 05-26-2015
Mortgage Commitment Letter:
Went to underwriting: 05-26-2015
Underwriting Complete: 06-01-2015
Final Approval:
Walk Through: 06-09-2015
Closing Date: 06-09-2015
Notes: This was our 7th offer during the span of 6 weeks. The Denver market is highly competitive and we were up against 5-30 offers on each home with each accepted price soaring above asking price. Our agent suggested we find an overpriced home with more than a week on the market and no offers. Her idea proved to be what worked for us and we were able to get the home for asking price plus $6k in seller consessions and ~$3000 in repairs. We used and NHF Grant which took care of our down payment and any additional closing costs that could not be paid by the seller. We received our $4000 earnest money back as well as a batch of fresh baked cookies at closing. (=