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Purchasing a short sale home with rising rates? And a bit of other confusion.

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teachag89
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Purchasing a short sale home with rising rates? And a bit of other confusion.

My husband & I signed a contract on a home early this month, we have a mid August closing date and our loan has been approved after going through underwriting (USDA loan, no appraisal yet so it hasn't made its way to USDA) The inspection brought up several issues and although the sellers are working on fixing them, we have decided this may not be the house for us. We are seriously considering backing out.

We found a short sale house today. The asking price was reduced by $25k to $175,000. It is my understanding that they have two mortgages on the house totaling about $270k (that figure came from our realtor but I'm not sure it's accurate). Its assessed value is $215k. Here's my issue- I know short sales are a pain and realtors hate dealing with them. We are under contract for another house but its not too late to walk. We've already started the loan process. I understand that we can transfer the loan but I'm not sure how this works with a SS. Will the bank likely even accept an offer of $175k? With interest rates rising, do we have to wait potentially 3-6 months to even know our rate? Does this sound like a disaster? We fell in love with the house and are willing to wait, just concerned about the other factors. Thanks in advance for any advice!
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superfrustrated
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Re: Purchasing a short sale home with rising rates? And a bit of other confusion.

I can tell you the short sale sales price must be relatively close to the house's actual value (the realtor should be able to tell you what that is however some realtors mistakenly think the mortgage company is willing to let the house go for pennies so they list it for a low price in hopes of getting it sold quickly).  Its odd that the house is tax assessed quite a bit higher than the asking price - all of the areas I've worked with seem to show the tax assessment is close to the actual value of the property (if not even lower).  The mortgage company is going to review the short sale offer like this: 1) what is the house valued at?  2) they will likely accept any sales price that is at least 85% of that value.  The reason why is because the only other alternative is for the mortgage company to foreclose and take back ownership of the property themselves...then they have to turn around and hire their own realtor, pay commissions, closing costs, and the carrying costs for the several months it will take to get that all finished....and in the end they still can only sell the house for what its worth and then their profit is reduced by all the costs I just mentioned - which the mortgage company has roughly estimated to be 15% of the value........hence why they will accept 85% in a short sale.  I have seen a few cases where the mortgage company will request more than 85% BUT never more than the house is actually worth because virtually all new buyers must obtain financing and their new loan is going to be based on what the house is actually worth - they can never borrower more than the house is worth....so if the original mortgage company required a sales price higher than the value of the home, the only buyers for that property would be cash buyers who do not depend on a loan to buy a house - and that severely limits the pool of buyers.  ONE MORE THING, sometimes the seller of the house has already approached their lender before they listed the house for sale and their lender responded back with a suggested listing price.  Check with the realtor who listed the short sale to see if they already had the short sale price pre-screened by the lender.  I should say this does not happen in a majority of cases, but it is a possibility.

 

As for how long short sales take - the sellers are ultimately the ones who must take control over hounding the lender for short sale approval.  Some reviews take less than 30 days - but most take a lot longer.  If the review is taking more than 60 days, someone is dropping the ball (trust me - I work for a national lender in the default area). The problem is determining who is dropping the ball.  It could be the seller has not provided all the financials the lender required.  It could be they faxed them all and some got 'lost' - sometimes they get 'lost' multiple times.  It can be very frustrating.  It will be virtually impossible for you to know who is dropping the ball - the seller or the lender.  Hopefully the seller has a strong realtor who will press the lender for whats missing and likewise press the seller for the documents.  If it does get held up by the lender, the seller can do several things to try to move it along:  ask to speak to a supervisor, state the new buyer is about to walk (even though they are not), have the seller check to see if their loan is backed by Fannie or Freddie (just google 'how do I determine if my loan is owned by Fannie or Freddie' and you will find the links.  If the loan is Fannie or Freddie, the seller should contact Fannie or Freddie to complain/escalate their issue.  Fannie/Freddie will be all over it - because the longer the house does not close, the more money Fannie/Freddie lose....and if the house does not complete short sale and goes to foreclosure instead, Fannie and Freddie lose even more.  Fannie/Freddie will contact the sellers mortgage company directly and make sure the review is escalated.  Two more escalation suggestions: if the foreclosure process was already started on the house, the mortgage company has already hired an attorney/trustee to work the foreclosure.  The seller can contact that attorney to have the file escalated - attorneys are very good for that!  And lastly, the seller can google the executives of the mortgage company - look for executives whose titles are 'default services', 'loss mitigation', 'risk management'.  You'd be surprised but those executives actually check their mail and escalate complaints. 

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Sunshine85
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Re: Purchasing a short sale home with rising rates? And a bit of other confusion.

A second mortgage + a short sale = disappointment. I learned that the hard way. 

 

It seems like you haven't found the house that's right for you. If you can back out of your current contract without penalty, do so, and keep looking until you find a house you're 100% happy with.

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teachag89
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Re: Purchasing a short sale home with rising rates? And a bit of other confusion.

Wow, thank you! I am accumulating a list of questions to ask the listing agent. The "good" news, if a such thing in this case exists, is that the listing agent is apparently the best of the best when it comes to short sales and foreclosures. My agent has worked short sales but would prefer to steer away from them. We, too, would run from a SS if we were desperate to buy but we are not. I'm only concerned that interest rates might rise by the end of this process, making it not much of a deal after all.
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teachag89
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Re: Purchasing a short sale home with rising rates? And a bit of other confusion.

Sunshine, do you mind telling me about your experience? I'm trying to have as much knowledge before hand. Thanks!
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