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nada9188
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Refi without 80% LTV?!?!

Hi All

 

Originally closed on my house three years ago for 170,000 FHA @3.25%.

 

Current value estimated at 185,000, owe 156,000 meaning 84%. Would take 8k to get me to 80%.

 

I really would like to refinance to get rid of the PMI but do not have 8k laying around. Do I have any options here? 

 

Looking to shorten the term to 15 or 20 yrs.

 

2nd point: If bank statements are required for a refi, my average balances are between 2-5k at any given time-will this be a problem?

 

Credit scores 800+, income 55K yr.

 

Thank you!

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Anonymous
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Re: Refi without 80% LTV?!?!


@nada9188 wrote:

Hi All

 

@Originally closed on my house three years ago for 170,000 FHA @3.25%.

 

Current value estimated at 185,000, owe 156,000 meaning 84%. Would take 8k to get me to 80%.

 

I really would like to refinance to get rid of the PMI but do not have 8k laying around. Do I have any options here? 

 

Looking to shorten the term to 15 or 20 yrs.

 

2nd point: If bank statements are required for a refi, my average balances are between 2-5k at any given time-will this be a problem?

 

Credit scores 800+, income 55K yr.

 

Thank you!


Truly depends on what the house appraises for. At that LTV and credit score, your PMI will only be about $20 per month.

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StartingOver10
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Re: Refi without 80% LTV?!?!


@nada9188 wrote:

Hi All

 

@Originally closed on my house three years ago for 170,000 FHA @3.25%.

 

Current value estimated at 185,000, owe 156,000 meaning 84%. Would take 8k to get me to 80%.

 

I really would like to refinance to get rid of the PMI but do not have 8k laying around. Do I have any options here? 

 

Looking to shorten the term to 15 or 20 yrs.

 

2nd point: If bank statements are required for a refi, my average balances are between 2-5k at any given time-will this be a problem?

 

Credit scores 800+, income 55K yr.

 

Thank you!


Depends on where you got the current estimated value.  The refi lender will use a new appraisal. You might want to get a Realtor (experienced and knowledgeable) to give you a CMA using good comps for an estimate before you apply.  Don't just use the automated valuation systems that proliferate the internet eg Zillow type - those automated valuations are way off in either direction - either high or low. I see it all the time. 

 

The bank statements shouldn't be an issue. You're on time with your current mortgage and other obligations, right? No problem then.

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BrianB_The_Loan_Professor
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Re: Refi without 80% LTV?!?!

3.25 rate is pretty awesome = at the time you did your loan PMI May not have been for the life of the loan - 

June 3, 2013 all fha loans with less than 10% down changed and the PMI is for the life of the loan - if you put 10% down you could get out of the pmi after 11 years

However prior to that it was once you reached 78% or had been in the loan for 5 years

If you were prior to that time consider doing what you can to pay down to 78% and stay at 3.25%

 

In comparison - if you were to refi into a conventional now your rate would be higher  than it currently is and you would still have a small PMI payment

If you came in with enough to buy down to 80% it would only be a little more to get to the 78% and keep that rate WITHOUT the cost of a refi

 

Just another angle to consider

 

Hope it helps

BrianB

 

 

 

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