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We are looking at a home and are able to buy with VA. My income isn't being used, so it's based on husband's credit/income. Discharged ch13 BK (BK was 5 years ago, payments made on time) and the broker had zero concerns about that given the fact that it was 5 years ago. Nothing bad since then, good payment/rental/job history and can qualify for max VA.
All of that said - we were told that he needs a minimum 660 from the broker to get a VA loan. Is this typical? I thought it was closer to 620, and mid-score is 649 right now. Do we just wait and try to get an 11 point bump by decreasing our utilizations or do we keep shopping around? They can get us into an FHA but why would we want to put 3.5% down and pay PMI? We were bummed that we couldn't get a prequal to put in an offer on a home....
It's because you are using a broker.
Go to another lender that funds their own loans - a correspondent lender or a mortgage banker. There is no VA requirement for 660 score. That is your brokers requirement (and the lenders with which he works).
There are many lenders out there that will do it with a lower score than 660.
Take Shane's advice and I will amplify a little. Shane knows the particulars of our VA experience and hopefully we'll get the final approval we need Tuesday, but here is what I found. (Shane is unfortunately not our lender on this transaction )
@Brandytab wrote:We are looking at a home and are able to buy with VA. My income isn't being used, so it's based on husband's credit/income. Discharged ch13 BK (BK was 5 years ago, payments made on time) and the broker had zero concerns about that given the fact that it was 5 years ago. Nothing bad since then, good payment/rental/job history and can qualify for max VA.
All of that said - we were told that he needs a minimum 660 from the broker to get a VA loan. Is this typical? I thought it was closer to 620, and mid-score is 649 right now. Do we just wait and try to get an 11 point bump by decreasing our utilizations or do we keep shopping around? They can get us into an FHA but why would we want to put 3.5% down and pay PMI? We were bummed that we couldn't get a prequal to put in an offer on a home....
Thank you so much for the excellent responses. I was shocked when the broker tried to talk us into FHA - I felt the same way that you mentioned. He earned the priviledge of the VA loan, so why not take advantage of it? Also, we are wanting to spend 300K, and that puts us above the FHA range (according to the broker) without putting money down.
We bought a home together in the late 90s using VA but it was easy peasy. Active duty, not much for debt. We were but teenagers (literally).
How do we go about finding a GOOD lender? I emailed Veterans United but now I'm wondering if that was such a wise idea after reading some posts on this forum. Regarding the "vanilla" loan, job history is good, pay is good, no charge offs, judgements, collections or lates in the last 5 years (since beginning BK process), not much for debt (DTI is 2% right now).
The mortgage broker can only tell you the guidelines from the lenders they can broker loans out to. If you were looking for a VA loan over a $417k loan amount then that is when some lenders start to require higher credit scores. If you aren't looking for over $417k then it has been a very long time since I've seen any lender require a 660 score for VA financing. As you have presumed, most are OK with a 620, we even go down to a 600. If you have VA as an option, I'd definitely pursue that and would only take a "no" from an underwriter reviewing the loan, and not a loan officer. Nothing you've said about your situation indicates that VA wouldn't be possible.
DO NOT USE A BROKER....I closed with a 625 middle score.
I just closed on my home with a VA loan. 2 years post chap 7, no lates since, only 2 credit card accounts. Mid score was a 669 but I only needed a 620. I used veterans United Home Loans. They were fantastic with me and I reccommend them to anyone looking to use their Va benefit. 4.25% interest rate.
My story: http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Mortgage-Loans/Happiness-in-an-email/m-p/3393787#M154001
lots of lenders at 620.
just call around. or maybe ask a realtor for a referral