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Do lenders calculate the DTI with or without your expected mortgage payment included?
There are 2 different types of DTI
There's the Front-end DTI, which includes Mortgage Payments, etc.
There's also the Back-end DTI, which includes all your Front-END DTI stuff plus car payments, credit card MIN payments, student loans etc.
This thread is specifically talking about the back-end ratio (45-50-54% in some cases).
I thought front end was mortgage, hoa, home owners insurance & tax and back end was front end + all other debt like cc payment, auto payment and what not but maybe i'm worng.
Front end is mortgage and mortgage related. Back end is mortgage/related and all the other stuff.
THAT IS FINE..UP TO 45/50