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Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

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pmac2014
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Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

Can someone please explain to me why a 120 late is  considered the same as a foreclosure? So that means that the waiting periods are the same to purchase a new home. And does that apply even if we were able to sell our home in a tradional sale with out Wells Fargo foreclosing?  Does it mean anything that we were able to pay the loan in full with out definciencies? Our goal was to pay back  what we owed and not have a foreclosure on our record- only to find out that a 120 late is treated as a foreclosure.  I guess I just need some clarification on this. Just frustrated.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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Peter1142
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

Who said that? I'm not sure it is true... but no expert on forclosure etc rules.

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StartingOver10
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

I don't know the reason why. I did find a couple of links for you though to review: http://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/201312_cfpb_foreclosure-avoidance-procedures.pdf

 

This is a Fannie Mae link with very detailed underwriting information on pre-foreclosures and other credit related items. Take a look at the entire link, but pay special attention to the Delinquent Mortgage section about half way down the page:

 

https://www.fanniemae.com/content/guide/selling/b3/5.3/09.html

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StartingOver10
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed


@Peter1142 wrote:

Who said that? I'm not sure it is true... but no expert on forclosure etc rules.


^^^It's true. DallasLoanGuy brought it up in response to the OPs question in another thread.

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Peter1142
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

Interesting... I agree with TC it doesn't really make any sense.

 

I just browsed through that link to the DU underwriting criteria and see nothing about the 120 day late rules being the same as foreclosure... I do see that a mortgage charge-off has a waiting period, but it is less than foreclosure.

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pmac2014
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

I've read several posts here stating that both 120 day late and FC are treated the same.  I think it's insane that a paid loan (even if the FC process was started) is treated the same as a complete FC where the bank takes a loss.  It's just wrong. Just my opinion.

 

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pmac2014
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

Thanks for the links StartingOver10.  I'm going to read them now!  I have an appointment with a lender this Friday and want to go with all the information I can get.

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StartingOver10
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

pmac, here is a better link for waiting periods on new mortgages with derogatory credit. I hope this helps:

https://www.fanniemae.com/content/guide/selling/b3/5.3/07.html

 

I believe that the OPs situation would be defined as a "Pre-foreclosure Sale". 

 

It is possible the OP may fit into extenuating circumstances, I don't know.

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Peter1142
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Re: Why is a 120 day late considered the same as a Foreclosure even if not foreclosed

It says pre-forclosure sale is the same as a short sale, settling for less than the total due.

 

As I said I am no expert on these rules, just commenting on what I am reading...

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skigirl916
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