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Financing medical procedures?

My husaband is epileptic, his condition is not entirely controlled by medicine and at this point his neurologist wants him to start going to a specialist to be evaluated for surgery. Nothing is set in stone yet, he's been reffered but we haven't been contacted by the clinic. 

 

The first thing he said was, "We can't afford this,", but I pointed out to him the other option is to start applying for disability, because they can't just keep piling on more meds.

 

We have an annual deductible of $2000 per person and a maximum annual out of pocket per person of $6500. If they decide to evaluate him it will involve a lot of very expensive tests that I'm positive will end up going straight towards our deductible (his last regular EEG was put entirely towards our deductible). I've read about patients who spent an entire year being tested before surgery, so in the end it could be two years of meeting our deductible and maximum out of pocket.

 

I'm no stranger to hospital billing, we've been dealing with this for 6 years now. We don't have much in savings, and the extra money we have coming in I was hoping to put towards cleaning up some old debt from a bad year in 2013. I can put that off and hold onto it to pay off the potential upcoming bills, between it and our savings it would pay off a good portion. I doubt we'll qualify for any financial assistance.

 

My question is, other than trying to work with the doctors and hospital to consolidate the debt and set up a payment plan, are there any financing options for medical procedures?

 

I do have a 401k, but I know there are penalties for pulling money out early.

 

And like I said, nothing has been decided, I would just like to go into this knowing what all of the options are.

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Anonymous
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I wouldn't take out of your retirement, maybe borrow, a health savings account could help you, also I would try to look for some charities that might help, another thing to consider is surgery outside USA might be cheaper.

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Callandra
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It never hurts to contact a doctor's office/hospital and ask about a payment plan. The hospital I worked for (many many moons ago, my first job) was a charity hospital (they didn't turn anyone down) and would work out payment plans. I don't know how necessary the surgery is (as in life-vs-death) but if he needs it, start making some calls around. I would also advise against borrowing against retirement unless it's absolutely necessary for him to have this. 

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Anonymous
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Thank you both for your responses.

 

I just finished looking up the clinic, and they do offer charity assistance. Last time I applied for charity assistance with bills from a hopsital, I was denied, and at the time I was making less than $30k a year. We owed about $10k and to pay it all in due time we moved in with family for a year. I'm happy to say that I make more now, but I thought there would be no chance for financial assistance.

 

Looking into their charity assistance they will consider anyone making at or below 300% the poverty guidelines. Which means we could very well qualify for charity assistance! Yay!

 

As for how nessecary the surgery is, it's not life-vs-death. As long as his seizures remain uncontrolled there is a risk he will harm himself during a seizure, and there's a risk the harm could be fatal. He cannot drive, he cannot be home alone, and he's on a lot of medicine with a lot of side effects. Testing will need to be done to find out if he's even a candidate, and even if he is there's no guarantee the surgery will reduce the number of seizures he has, let alone cure his epilepsy. Testing will be a week long, in hopsital video EEG, which will be expensive on its own. But I believe this is worth looking into if there's even a chance it can improve the quality of his life.

 

We have a lot to consider in the near future, but I'm beginning to feel a little better about it.

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Anonymous
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Glad you're feeling a bit better about it and have some options available to you.

 

Low chance but worth a mention: anyone in Washington State or New Jersey has Charity Care available as a possibility, which is separate from any financial aid the clinic/hospital might be offering.

 

Another possibility you could look into is getting in on medical trials, which typically cover all diagnostic costs involved.

 

And, if I may say, very sorry to hear you find yourselves in this situation. Hang in there, you're doing great to have come this far and still be able to think clearly!

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Anonymous
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I don't know what your credit scores are (or what is required) but Care Credit is a credit card offered through Synchrony Bank (formerly GE) for medical stuff (both people and pets). I had never heard of it but when I got Lasik and they offered 0% financing, that's what it was. In the years since I've had a dog with cancer and used it a bit for that (though I didn't know about asking for credit limit increases at the time and only used it for a small fraction since that's all the credit I had available.) 

 

Hit the credit card forum here, if you're interested and have more questions. You can allso google credit pulls database and see what kinds of scores and limits people have been getting approved with. 

 

Best to you both. 

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Anonymous
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There are many hospitals provides medical insurance for the patients health. Even some hospitals also provide free medical support for the patients in need. Check with them. 

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thom02099
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@Anonymous wrote:

My husaband is epileptic, his condition is not entirely controlled by medicine and at this point his neurologist wants him to start going to a specialist to be evaluated for surgery. Nothing is set in stone yet, he's been reffered but we haven't been contacted by the clinic. 

 

The first thing he said was, "We can't afford this,", but I pointed out to him the other option is to start applying for disability, because they can't just keep piling on more meds.

 


The way I'm reading this, you actually have two different circumstances,both of which could be expensive.

 

There's the current situation whereby your husband's condition is not entirely controlled by medicine.  You have those expenses that you're currently dealing with, and I'm familiar with how expensive some specialty medications can be.  Then you also have the process of going through the testing/evaluations to see if your husband is a candidate for surgery.  As you pointed out, these diagnostic tests can be expensive.

 

The 2nd issue you have is, if the diagnostics come back and there's a recommendation for surgery, you're going to have those expenses, above and beyond the expenses of getting to that point.  Depending on the type of surgery, it can be cost prohibitive sometimes.  There are factors such as what area of the country you're in (some places are less costly than others), and the expertise of the Doctor(s) involved. 

 

There have been some good suggestions.  For a clarification, if you have a HSA (health savings account), check the terms and conditions for making a withdrawal.  I suggest this, because there can be limitations.  For example, I have/had an HSA, but could not access it until I retired from my employment.  The HSA helped pay for my medical premiums under COBRA for coverage continuation.

 

Rather than consider a withdrawal from any 401(k) you may have, if it's available, look into maybe taking out a loan against your 401(k).  Depending on the plan, you may be able to take a loan of up to 50% of the value of 401(k).  With this type of loan you're paying yourself back.  That said, given the current market conditions and wild fluctuations, this may not be a viable option.

 

If surgery is indicated, consider as someone suggested, going out of the country for surgery.  Even with the cost of airfare and temporary housing, it can be substantially cheaper to do so.  As an example, a few years back I had to have a back surgery procedure done.  The cost estimate was $50-80K for the surgery and the final cost was over $70K.  Fortunately for me, my insurance covered the surgery, but even so, my out-of-pocket cost was ~$3500.  I did in fact look into going abroad for the surgery and found that surgery could be done in India for ~$15K.  Airfare and hospitalisation would have added perhaps another $5-$10K to the cost, but that's well under the $70K it turned out to be.  There are other locations one can choose, and don't get caught up in the question about the level of care.  Even though we like to believe that our healthcare system is the best in the world, the reality is, it's not.

 

Also as suggested, if you get to the point of your husband needing surgery, talk to the hospitals and doctors involved about financing options.  There's always options, and alternatives. Same thing with specialty medications.  Check with manufacturers to see if they offer some sort of assistance plan. (There are commercials on TV where manufacturer AstraZeneca has assistance plans for some of their medications).  Also, don't rule out some websites such as GoFundMe to set up a donation site to solicit help in covering the costs of surgery. 

 

You also mentioned filing for disability.  Presumably, you're referring to Social Security Disability?  Or some sort of private disability?  If it's SSDI, you may want to consult with an attorney who specialises in this.  They can assist in getting through the process in a more streamlined manner than trying to go it alone.  Initial consultations are usually free, or at significantly reduced cost, and the expense could well be worth it for peace of mind in getting through the process.

 

If you have private disability available, it can be a much easier process and far less confrontational than SSDI.  I know.  I went through a process such as this.  It's all a matter fo following instructions exactly, doing what they ask of you exactly, and remember what the goal is...to get the disability claim approved.  Mine took approximately 4 months to complete, the company I dealt with was compassionate and looking out for my interests, and in the end when the disabilty was granted, it was retroactive to the date that I retired and filed.

 

Best of luck to you and your husband as you go forward with this. 

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Anonymous
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Do you have medical insurance?

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Anonymous
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I do not know what state your in, but people have reported sucess managing siezures with medical marijuana. It has almost no noticible side effects, and definitly less than many perscription drugs. I am by no means a medical expert, but would give it a shot if I were in your situation.

 

http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/treating-seizures-and-epilepsy/other-treatment-approaches/medical-mari...

 

 

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