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Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

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Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

I am 37 years old and throughout my younger years I was irresponsible and didn’t care about credit or my future. This was both a blessing and a curse to the situation I find myself in today. Thankfully I never opened any credit card accounts or tried to qualify for any loans, so my credit situation is not as dire as it could be; however the downside is that I didn’t care about paying bills and have quite a few accounts in collections.

This is my current situation:

FICO score 520

Secured credit card credit one bank- 300 limit, 25 min payment – balance is 275 as of today

Secured credit card Bank of America- 300 limit, 25 min payment- balance is 275 as of today

Car loan began March of 2015                         265 monthly payment- balance is 5200

Home furniture loan began July of 2016           205  monthly payment –balance is 3500

Total in collections- about 2600           (medical bills, Verizon bill, utility bill from years ago)

 

Income is 2200 a month after taxes, plus 800 a month from tenants

Rent/ utilites/ phone/ insurance – 2000 a month.    

  So   what I want to do it find a loan that I can use to pay off the car and furniture and collections and then just pay one monthly bill, also if I pay off the car I can knock my car insurance down to basic and if I can get those collections paid and removed, I can improve my credit rating. I don’t mind high interest even, just figuring out a way to make my monthly load more streamlined.

 

I am paying out about 2500 a month and living on just the 300 left over , I am not able to afford to pay off any of the collections at this time, and I am one emergency away from losing it all. My fiancée just left me in August after 5 years and last winter I lost my 60,000 a year job due to illness. I have a 12 year old daughter and am doing all I can to stay ahead.

 

Does anyone have advice? Any places that might offer a loan with my credit score? I already have a small ( up to 500 ) payday loan that I use to back me up in case something comes up, for instance I had car repairs last month and had to use it. When using that loan it carries 10% interest.

 

I have had a checking account open with BOA for 6 years and I went to them first and was almost laughed out the door.

I want to buy a house eventually, a low cost fixer up property maybe 75,000- there are tons of mobile homes on an acre or two around the area I live in. If I can get a mortgage on such a property, I will undoubtedly be able to lower my monthly output until then paying 1250 for a house with 5 bedrooms and renting a few out is the only way for me to make it (me, my kid, single male roommate, couple, and their kids is the household currently) .

 

Its like there is no place to start. You need to improve your credit by paying off debts and making timely payments, but being so close to the wire, sometimes my balances grow and payments are late.

 

It would be cheaper monthly to get a loan to cover those payments but I cant get one without the high credit score.

 

It would be more manageable to pay a mortgage and lower utilities for a smaller house, but I cant buy until I improve my score and save up money for a down.

 

I feel like I will be stuck in this cycle forever, is there any hope?

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Anonymous
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Re: Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

How old are your collections account? And how much do you owe on them?
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Anonymous
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Re: Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

First, BE CAREFUL with that pay day loan!!!!

Second, BE CAREFUL with that pay day loan!!!

Payday loans can quickly push you into bankruptcy, although I understand the need for emergency coverage you really need to be careful with those.

 

Before we start to look at credit, we must start with your budget. If you can free some money up, you could possibly repair your credit quicker then you think. Where does all your money go every month, what does your budget look like? I know you gave us a summary, but a more detailed look will help us advise on where you could possibly save some money. Right up front, that furniture bill looks big to me, but you may not be able to get out of it. But I am rambling so back to basics, what are the details of your budget.

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Anonymous
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Re: Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

You should also list your collections, the amounts, and when the Date of First Delinquency (found on your credit reports) is. 

 

Having a full picture helps us give proper advice. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

With your scores and DTI where they are now, I'd say give up on that streamlining loan.  Not gonna happen.

 

Getting your card balances down below 30% on both (that is, less than $90 on each card) will improve your FICO utilization points a great deal.  Ideal credit mix for FICO scoring requires three revolving tradelines and at least one installment line (your car and furniture payments are your installment lines, so you're covered there) - but I wouldn't necessarily pursue that third revolver just yet, since both of the ones you have already are secured.  I'd wait until my score improved a little and I could get an unsecured one from Capital One or another major lender (not a bottom-feeder like Credit One or First Premier), or maybe get a Walmart card or other useful store card as my third line.

 

Your budget is already tight.  Squeezing $100 out of it on a monthly basis may seem like a monumental task - but if you can do this, you can pay down your credit cards and then hopefully build yourself a reserve account of several hundred dollars, within a year's time.  That reserve account can replace your payday loan approval as your "backup" - and if you have to use it, make yourself pay it back.  There just won't be any interest or fees to pay yourself this way.  Building your own reserve in this way can also help you get in the habit of saving up for that future mortgage down payment, too.   Finding that $100 extra each month to pay into the credit cards (without replacing the charges!) may be a combination of eliminating fast-food/restaurant meals (make sandwiches), eliminating movie night (switch to redbox or use Netflix), reducing your cable package if you have one, clipping coupons, selling old books/movies, babysitting, whatever...  you need 4 months at $100 a month to get yourself under the 30% mark on both cards.  6 more months after that and you can have a savings reserve over $500, and enough besides to treat the two of you to a mani/pedi and a nice dinner Smiley Wink

 

Your car insurance bill is something to think about as well - if you are able to pay off your vehicle and switch to "liability only" coverage, what will happen if an uninsured motorist hits your car, or it gets stolen, or a large storm causes a flood that destroys your car?  If you can survive one of these things on your own, then by all means stop paying for full insurance coverage. But if you cannot, then you might need to consider what kind of insurance you really need and what that realistically costs, versus eliminating coverage just to lower the bill.  I know that as a working mom, your car is important to daily life.

 

Old collections are going to hurt you until they age past 7 years and fall off the reports.  You have a long way to go financially before you have the cash on hand to just pay them or try to pay-for-delete, so you need to figure out if that is going to be feasible before these bills get past 7 years old.  You've got about a year and a half left on the car note and the furniture loan (based on the figures you gave on those), and once that's passed, you'll have about $470 a month to apply toward other things - like old debts and increasing savings, while keeping cards current.

 

Your payment history needs you to be on top of things, scheduling-wise.  Your payment history is a large part of FICO, and if you get too behind (more htan 30 days) on any one account, you are going to kill off any progress you make in your score.  Even being a few days late, while it won't appear on your credit report, can cause you to incur all kinds of fees and late charges from various lenders, and can even increase the interest rate on your credit cards.  So this is a must - mark a calendar, set an alarm do whatever you need to do to pay everything on time.  Even if it's just minimum payments - you can always send in another extra payment later in the month if you're still working on cutting down credit card balances.

 

Nothing is ever hopeless.  Sometimes not easy, but never hopeless.

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Anonymous
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Re: Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

OK, I'm going to approach this from a more unconventional angle than most, but first I will need you to answer a few questions:

Where are you getting that 520 FICO score from?

1. The BoA card - when was it opened? What day is its payment due?

2. The Credit One (yuck) card - when was it opened? What day is its payment due?
3. What is the interest rate on the car loan? How many payments are left? what is the due date? Do you know if the lender will accept online payments using a credit card?

4. What is the interest rate on the furniture loan? How many payments are left? Do you know if the lender will accept payments using a credit card?

5. How much is your insurance payment? What day is it due?

6. Can you provide a breakdown of your other bills - Rent, phone utilites, etc?

 

I know some of these questions seem a little odd but believe me, there is a method to my madness.

 

 

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Anonymous
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Wow you guys are so much help thank you. There were a lot of questions, so I will try to get some answers to you, however i do not have a copy of my report in my hand, so some of this stuff is best guess.

 

Opened BOA credit card in 2015 due on the 18th

 

Opened credit one in August 2016 due on the 18th

 

Car interest is not known payment due the 9th

 

Furniture interest is 22% payment due the 5th

 

My accounts in collections are all within the last 3 years, verizon being very recent ( I had a home office with verizon business, my employer required us to have the high speed internet in our own name at home, I signed a two year agreement and then was fired 6 months later due to missing work (at home) due to illness, I had a severe medical issue and no FMLA. So I owe about 700 for early termination.

 

 

I have a 1200 bill from hospital ER services, again same issue but from 2015, I had insurance through work at that time, thankfully because the bill was drastically reduced, however I also had a 7600 deductible and was left holding that bill.

 

 

I have a couple very small doctors’ bills which I could pay off easily, one for 75, one for 230, and another for 157. These were all from 2014

 

 

I think I had an old utility bill on my credit from a gas company in Michigan, but now that I think about it, that was 9 years ago, so that is likely gone.

 

My budget is very tight, and my income was cut in half last winter, recently my fiancée left and he made about as much as me ( we are both insurance agents ) I have a customer service job now, because it was regular, hourly, close to home and non-stressful but I think the answer is to make more money.

I hold three insurance licenses and should be able to be making at least 50K a year, which would allow there to be extra money in the budget to pay off the collections, get the balances low on the CC`s and start paying down my car and furniture loans.

The furniture is high, it is because my fiancées kids came to stay for the summer and we needed to furnish a room for them, at the time he was making about 5000 a month and we splurged and got a really nice new bed set and living room set and gave the kids our older stuff, anyways it was three weeks later that he decided to quit his job and go back, and so when it was time for the kids to leave, he went with them.

Everything was always in my name because he has terrible credit due to having chronic asthma and never having insurance (goes to the ER for prescriptions) and owing a ton of child support and back taxes!

My FICO score was given to me when I applied for a loan with my bank, this was back in April. Since then I have an alert set up with BOA which gives my score every month. I’m not sure how accurate it is, but it hasn’t moved much, maybe increased slightly improved over the months, as I think now it might be 532 or something similar, I usually pay everything on time but Sept and Oct have been rough, I’m facing late payment notices on the car and furniture, I paid the credit cards a week late, rent is pushed on until next month and I am hardly able to keep the lights on.

I just got this job a few weeks ago, some things happened in September and I tried a commission only job that didn’t turn any profits. So I had no savings, and the rug was pulled out from under me when the fiancée left, although I understood his need to go.

 

I guess best advice is keep up on payments, try to increase income, write letters to collections offering payment for records update once I can afford to pay them, and have patience.   I thank you all for the advice and I’m open to all benevolent suggestions from you fine men and women here.  My lease is up June 1st and I wish I could afford to move by then, and not rent again, Im so ready to buy!

 

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Stryder
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Re: Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

One thing you can do, which would cost you no money, is to look at everything you spend besides your bills, groceries, gas, whatever.  Figure out when your BoA and credit one produce their statements (That is what the CRA's go by for your balances on your credit reports). You can look at your older statements and you can see when they cycle....it is usually right after your payment is due...hopefully they are spread apart a little bit. If it is a week or so after your payment, make the minimum payment, and then 2 days before it goes to statment, pay it in full down to zero. As soon as the statement is done showing zero, you can then use the card to buy groceries, get gas etc. Eventually over time, you can bring your running balance down, but as far as the CC and the Credit Bureau's are concerned...your balance is zero and you didn't need new money. btw, do not have both cards reort zero's at the same time...always show a little amount on one...like $10 and zero. I would just flex one card starting out until you get the feel of the cash flow. 

 

The reason why this is important is because of your "revolving credit utilization". Your using your cards at over 90% of their capacity. In the credit bucket you're in, that counts heavy. I had 5 old bad derogs and a score of 630 (Jan2016) with a utilzation I'm guessing over 80% (dollar values don't matter...only the % of your balance to your credit limit). When I figured this out, I started paying it down. When it got to 49%, my score were 645-655, when it got to 32% it went to 665 and so on. Now its at 7% and my scores bump around 680 - 700. My EQ is still bad (652) because it has 2 derogs on it. The last derog on EX fell off last week and jumped me to 739. TU still has one

 

Now I know you have a lot of things going on with your struggles and my heart is with you. It is horrific to be in a situation like yours Bad credit doesn't leave you many options. Time will pass and money will flow, by changing habits and approach, you can start to improve your credit with things you can control. The most important now is trying to make your loan and credit card payments on time. That, and your revolving utilization are the two things you can control. The third category is your baddies, and you cant do much about those right now. (others can advise you better than me)

 

Your utilities (including your phone) dont report to bureau's. You can even have them disconnected.(you just cant let them go to collections...then they do report). As your history builds with those two things, when you handle the rest, things will fall into place. That is why I stated my example. My wife and I had a bad 2009...repo-ed car and 4 open collections from credit cards... it's took me 6 years to get back up in the 600's (btw it took so long too because I was stupid and didn't learn how to repair credit until this year). I have 6 years of perfect payments, and like I said, now that my baddies are falling off, I will have scores over 700...I just sit and stare at my 739 and can't believe that is my score.

 

Read this web-site, learn, and be deligent! Best of luck!

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Anonymous
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Re: Advice needed for desperate mom with NO credit card debt

Thank you so much.  I will look into doing that, makes sense to use my credit cards for my groceries/gas and pay the balance down before it reports. everything here has been such sound advice!

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Stryder
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They will like seeing the activity and the large paydowns on it. Your credit will also start to improve, but dont know how much all the negative activity will impact it. I also don't know that it will help you get better CL's since it's a secured card. It depends on how yours work, but sometimes they will increase you since you are showing you know how to use them. I got an unsecured Cap one card in January with a $750 cl, by April they had graduated me to a QS with $2,750 and rewards of 1.5% for any purchase. I make $100- $200 a month in rewards and Im not buying anything new. I also not using my main debit card out in public so that helps with fraud on my money accounts. I don't live week to week because of my cash flow, and it helps my credit tremendously. So Creditors will respond to good habits

 

So even if it doen't help a whole lot now, it helps you learn good money habits and starts building a good credit history, so when you start aging your bad and clearing what you can, credit will start responding. Good history helps bad credit a lot!

 

Good luck to you!

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