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CreditGuy03
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Re: Best approach for medical collections

Can i get a pm too

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FredS
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Re: Best approach for medical collections

Please pm me this info. I am new to the forum and have medical collections I need to address.

 

Thanks.

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Re: Best approach for medical collections

Can you please pm me as well. Thank you

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Re: Best approach for medical collections

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Re: Best approach for medical collections

Can i get a pm too

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kimmykooz
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Re: Best approach for medical collections

The most updated info is reported on the debt so if you haven't paid on it in 2 yrs. & start paying now...you will be updating that account info .& ultimately adding those 2 yrs. onto the 7 you already had to wait for it to drop off. Credit Reporting law only provides for the negative information to update as paid which will, in time, raise your credit score. The most recent credit history has the biggest influence on the overall FICO score. The older the negative item, the less impact it will have. Credit is time sensitive. Contrary to what many people may think, a paid collection is still considered a negative item on your credit report and impacts your score negatively.

 

If the debt cannot be removed by disputing some aspect of it...you can negotiate with the collector to have the account removed from your credit report in exchange for or after completion of payment. Send the collector a letter stating your intention to pay the account in full or by payments. Add a simple explanation of your circumstances leading to the late payment..such as: was laid off at work, lost your job, etc. If the collector agrees to remove the entry from your credit report after you pay in full.. ask that they put this in writing. If you are successful in negotiating a "pay for delete" over the phone, make sure you get that agreement in writing as well. “Deleted”collections can raise your score points. So....How do you delete a collection? By simply negotiating with the collection agency, promising to pay the settlement amount and by following through. Good luck!!

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MarineVietVet
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Registered: ‎07-14-2009

Re: Best approach for medical collections


kimmykooz wrote:

The most updated info is reported on the debt so if you haven't paid on it in 2 yrs. & start paying now...you will be updating that account info .& ultimately adding those 2 yrs. onto the 7 you already had to wait for it to drop off. Credit Reporting law only provides for the negative information to update as paid which will, in time, raise your credit score. The most recent credit history has the biggest influence on the overall FICO score. The older the negative item, the less impact it will have. Credit is time sensitive. Contrary to what many people may think, a paid collection is still considered a negative item on your credit report and impacts your score negatively.

 

If the debt cannot be removed by disputing some aspect of it...you can negotiate with the collector to have the account removed from your credit report in exchange for or after completion of payment. Send the collector a letter stating your intention to pay the account in full or by payments. Add a simple explanation of your circumstances leading to the late payment..such as: was laid off at work, lost your job, etc. If the collector agrees to remove the entry from your credit report after you pay in full.. ask that they put this in writing. If you are successful in negotiating a "pay for delete" over the phone, make sure you get that agreement in writing as well. “Deleted”collections can raise your score points. So....How do you delete a collection? By simply negotiating with the collection agency, promising to pay the settlement amount and by following through. Good luck!!


This is less than correct. Nothing can (legally) change the CRTP (Credit Reporting Time Period). You could wait 6.5 years to make some sort of payment and the 7-7.5 year CRTP (depending on the type of negative reporting) would not reset.

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kimmykooz
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Registered: ‎06-02-2012

Re: Best approach for medical collections

NO...this is NOT less than correct. I never said the credit reporting time could be altered..legal or not!! What I said was Credit Reporting Law provides ONLY for the negative information to update as paid that is once it actually HAS been paid in full. If you have a negative collection on your credit report which has NO activity in 2 yrs., the minute you start making payments extends the 7 yr. life of that negative item. But by all means..I encourge everyone with outstanding accounts to pay them off ASAP. They will update as such on your credit report and you will see a slow rise in your credit score. Otherwise..I have researched this very issue only to discover that some individuals take matters into their own hands as do the collection agencies by negotiating what is refered to as a "pay for delete". The consumer agrees to pay the collection acct in full while the collection agency agrees, not to just update, but delete the entire item from the consumer's credit file. As appalling as this may seem..here's another one for you....there are some individuals who are desperately seeking any solution in order to obtain a descent credit score. What they do with THEIR own credit is their business & responsibility. Maybe you can do a little or a lot of your own research to discover the do's & don't's of credit reporting. Never have seen it mention 7-7.5 yrs CRTP. Although, I DID notice you have absolutely NO advice to offer the ones who are trying to seek resolution for the bad position they may be in. The information I posted can be obtained anywhere on the Internet whether it be right or wrong. After all..this IS a discussion forum.

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llecs
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Registered: ‎08-04-2007

Re: Best approach for medical collections


kimmykooz wrote:

NO...this is NOT less than correct. I never said the credit reporting time could be altered..legal or not!! What I said was Credit Reporting Law provides ONLY for the negative information to update as paid that is once it actually HAS been paid in full. If you have a negative collection on your credit report which has NO activity in 2 yrs., the minute you start making payments extends the 7 yr. life of that negative item. But by all means..I encourge everyone with outstanding accounts to pay them off ASAP. They will update as such on your credit report and you will see a slow rise in your credit score. Otherwise..I have researched this very issue only to discover that some individuals take matters into their own hands as do the collection agencies by negotiating what is refered to as a "pay for delete". The consumer agrees to pay the collection acct in full while the collection agency agrees, not to just update, but delete the entire item from the consumer's credit file. As appalling as this may seem..here's another one for you....there are some individuals who are desperately seeking any solution in order to obtain a descent credit score. What they do with THEIR own credit is their business & responsibility. Maybe you can do a little or a lot of your own research to discover the do's & don't's of credit reporting. Never have seen it mention 7-7.5 yrs CRTP. Although, I DID notice you have absolutely NO advice to offer the ones who are trying to seek resolution for the bad position they may be in. The information I posted can be obtained anywhere on the Internet whether it be right or wrong. After all..this IS a discussion forum.



If I'm reading right, if you have an account, like a collection or charge off, and it was been dormant for 2 years, are you saying that paying on it would extend the 7-year reporting time period on your CRs, thereby making it 9 years of reporting? Wouldn't that be illegal based on Sect. 605 of the Fair Credit Reporting Act?

 

http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/031224fcra.pdf

 

§ 605. Requirements relating to information contained in consumer reports

 

(a) Information excluded from consumer reports. Except as authorized under subsection (b)

of this section, no consumer reporting agency may make any consumer report containing

any of the following items of information:

...

(4) Accounts placed for collection or charged to profit and loss which antedate the report

by more than seven years.

 

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Per FICO scoring, it doesn't matter if you owe $0 or $10,000, the impact of a collection is equal. In other words paying off a collection won't help your FICO score. As you said, though, over time you could see some score improvement due to the fact that it is getting older. That improvement isn't due to paying it though. A 6-year old paid collection is just as bad per FICO as a 6-year old unpaid collection. Now there are some FAKO scores that look at paid collections favorably.

 

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Negotiating a pay for delete (PFD) isn't a bad thing. The purpose of a PFD is to get the item deleted. Getting any collection deleted is a great thing. Getting any charge-off deleted is usually a good thing, depending on the age of the OC account and how it reports. In some cases, getting a charge-off delete can result in a FICO loss.

 

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As of your post, you had been on these forums for about 360 minutes, or roughly 6 hours over the course of one day (today). If you read further and spend more time studying MVV's posts, as well as everyone else's posts, you'll see a great deal of time and effort is spent at helping others and improving their credit situation. You'll see countless posters, present company included, who were able to gain high scores and get a home of their own. You'll see countless posters say that their finances improved. You'll see posters post how they got out of debt. You'll see countless posters get saved from the clutches of CAs and pending judgments. Many of the success on these forums can be partially contributed to MVV and posters just like him, with most of the credit going to those in the hunt and making it happen.

 

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kimmykooz
Posts: 4
Registered: ‎06-02-2012

Re: Best approach for medical collections

So..you are telling me that you've NEVER had an old collection account "pop" back up on your credit report? Those are fun!! Especially if you mind your p's & q's...thereby having the foresight to keep all copies of your credit reports...old & new. Sure creditors know that form of practice is not within the credit reporting laws..neither is negotiating a PFD. You do what ya gotta do..huh? Oh..by the way..I was just making an observation when I called whomever out for ripping into me when I mentioned a PFD as you call it. I'm not that well versed on those but can read, understand & share my interpretation of just about anything I put my mind to. Just caught me off guard that you would even waste your time with whatever it is you have said to me instead of trying to add something to it...like you just did. We now, at the very least, have 2 different opinions on PFDs. As for being a new member here...well I'll just say I am shocked that you feel the need to attack everything I say. You know absolutely nothing about me or what I do for a living. I will say this much..I am probably one of the kindest people you will ever meet..given a chance. Otherwise, I probably would have "ripped into" you by now. I am extremely intelligent, well traveled and have a "heck of a way" with words. I joined this forum because I believe I have MUCH to offer and further enjoy helping people. I do not seek out drama or claim to be argumentative in any way. Maybe you should try a different approach? Such as to form a welcoming committee for ALL new members. In your spare time..while you are not busy saving forum members from the clutches, that is.


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