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CA Call - Disclosed Info to Husband on Wifes account w/o Verification

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Menecrates
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CA Call - Disclosed Info to Husband on Wifes account w/o Verification

Rec'd a call from a CA today for an account my wife has.  They asked for my wife by her maiden name (we married 12/30/10).  I explained she was unavailable and they asked if I was her husband. 

 

I verified I was her husband, however her name has not been changed in their system.

 

They disclosed the OC, the amount owed, the amount offset by the OC a few months ago, and that this had started to report to the CRAs.

 

Of course, they read the standard "this call is to collect a debt...any and all info......"

 

They did NOT ask for any verification information from me or my wife...

 

Did they do something wrong? 


Starting Score: EQ: 468 - 2/2013
Current Score: EQ: 620, EX: 611, TU: 599 - 7/2013
Goal Score: 750's

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MarineVietVet
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Re: CA Call - Disclosed Info to Husband on Wifes account w/o Verification


@Menecrates wrote:

Rec'd a call from a CA today for an account my wife has.  They asked for my wife by her maiden name (we married 12/30/10).  I explained she was unavailable and they asked if I was her husband. 

 

I verified I was her husband, however her name has not been changed in their system.

 

They disclosed the OC, the amount owed, the amount offset by the OC a few months ago, and that this had started to report to the CRAs.

 

Of course, they read the standard "this call is to collect a debt...any and all info......"

 

They did NOT ask for any verification information from me or my wife...

 

Did they do something wrong? 


Here is the full text of

 

FDCPA 804.  Acquisition of location information

 

Any debt collector communicating with any person other than the consumer for the purpose of acquiring location infor­mation about the consumer shall—

 

(1) identify himself, state that he is confirming or correct­ing location information concerning the consumer, and, only if expressly requested, identify his employer;

 

(2) not state that such consumer owes any debt;

 

(3) not communicate with any such person more than once unless requested to do so by such person or unless the debt collector reasonably believes that the earlier response of such person is erroneous or incomplete and that such person now has correct or complete location information;

 

(4) not communicate by post card;

 

(5) not use any language or symbol on any envelope or in the contents of any communication effected by the mails or telegram that indicates that the debt collector is in

the debt collection business or that the communi­cation relates to the collection of a debt; and

 

(6) after the debt collector knows the consumer is repre­sented by an attorney with regard to the subject debt and has knowledge of, or can readily ascertain, such attorney’s name and address, not communicate with any person other than that attorney, unless the attorney fails to respond within a reasonable period of time to the communication from the debt collector.

 

Also FDCPA 805(b) states:

 

COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES. Except as provided in section 804, without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector, or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, or as reasonably necessary to effectuate a postjudgment judicial remedy, a debt collector may not communicate, in connection with the collection of any debt, with any person other than a consumer, his attorney, a consumer reporting agency if otherwise permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the attorney of the debt collector.

 

 

It appears as though the CA is in violation.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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Menecrates
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Re: CA Call - Disclosed Info to Husband on Wifes account w/o Verification

Does ths vary by state?  The wife called trying to get the CA to delete the account because of the FCRA rules, and they stated "In Minnesota, if the person has disclosed themselves as your spouse, we can speak with them"

 

We live in MN.

 

Thougths?


Starting Score: EQ: 468 - 2/2013
Current Score: EQ: 620, EX: 611, TU: 599 - 7/2013
Goal Score: 750's

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: CA Call - Disclosed Info to Husband on Wifes account w/o Verification


@Menecrates wrote:

Does ths vary by state?  The wife called trying to get the CA to delete the account because of the FCRA rules, and they stated "In Minnesota, if the person has disclosed themselves as your spouse, we can speak with them"

 

We live in MN.

 

Thougths?



Sometimes state laws are a bit different. For instance the consumer protection laws in Texas say that a CA must answer a DV request within 30 days. In all other states there is no time limit for a CA to respond to a DV.

 

I would research the consumer laws in MN to see if what the CA said is true. It very well could be.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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