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Confused about CA opening dates

Hi All

 

Maybe someone can explain to me how a CA determines the date opened on an account.  Six months ago I recieved notice that two of my accounts have gone into collections (CreditKarma).  These two accounts are old, zombie-debt from 2006.  Due to fall off 06/2013.  The original TL charge off is long gone (Cable Provider) from all three CRAs.  

 

Point is, these CAs lines are showing as "new" activity and seriously degrading my score.  I sent DV to both, as this debt has been with at least 3 agencies and I'm not sure they can properly document the proper amount owed. 


My question -- how does a CA show a "new" deliquency from 2012 when the debt was already 6 years old?  SOL in my state is 7 years. 

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Shogun
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Re: Confused about CA opening dates


@Anonymous wrote:

Hi All

 

Maybe someone can explain to me how a CA determines the date opened on an account.  Six months ago I recieved notice that two of my accounts have gone into collections (CreditKarma).  These two accounts are old, zombie-debt from 2006.  Due to fall off 06/2013.  The original TL charge off is long gone (Cable Provider) from all three CRAs.  

 

Point is, these CAs lines are showing as "new" activity and seriously degrading my score.  I sent DV to both, as this debt has been with at least 3 agencies and I'm not sure they can properly document the proper amount owed. 


My question -- how does a CA show a "new" deliquency from 2012 when the debt was already 6 years old?  SOL in my state is 7 years. 


The date opened that they list is just the date that they opened it for collections.  It doesn't change the DOFD of the account which sets the SOL and the CRTP for the debt.  This debt isn't quite what is considered a zombie debt.  That is one that is past the SOL and the CRTP, this one is close, but not quite.  A debt can be passed from CA to CA until it is paid.  It can pass the SOL and the CRTP and still be passed around.  Problem is, these typically pop up with bottom feeders that don't necessarily care about FDCRA.  That's why I alway suggest to pay something to make it go away.

 

Edited for grammar, typing and watching the NCAA championship game at the same time.  Smiley Happy

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RobertEG
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Re: Confused about CA opening dates

Their reporting is not of a new "delinquency," it is the reporting of their collection authority.

They can report the date they received their collection authority as the open date of their collection.

 

The extent to which it may or may not affect your score if FICO places weight on the date opened in determining its impact is not a violation of any reporting provision on their part.    I agree that it defies logic that the reported date should impact your score, but many swear from their anecdotal experiences that it does.

 

What is the DOFD on the OC account?  Reliance on an anticipated exclusion date is a bit iffy, as those dates are often some period before the statutory exclusion date.

 

 

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